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C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Passed Senate Dec 13th - FastTadpole - 09-20-2010 04:07 PM C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup There is no hook in this series of articles and I attempting to turn over every stone. Under each one a bigger beast is lurking under it. Part I: Bill Analysis of some Key Points and the Forced Vaccination Strawman Here's my unfunded layman's analysis and highlights of bill C-6 I posted up to a forum in September 2009 (originally posted here: http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=878&pid=174697#pid174697 ) The bill excerpts speak for themselves. Relating to health and entering a home and "the conveyance" which may refer to a person: http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=2&Mode=1&Pub=Bill&Doc=C-6_3&File=53#8 Authority to enter place 20. (1) Subject to subsection 21(1), an inspector may, for the purpose of verifying compliance or preventing non-compliance with this Act or the regulations, at any reasonable time enter a place, including a conveyance, in which they have reasonable grounds to believe that a consumer product is manufactured, imported, packaged, stored, advertised, sold, labelled, tested or transported, or a document relating to the administration of this Act or the regulations is located. Powers (2) The inspector may, for the purpose referred to in subsection (1), (a) examine or test anything - and take samples free of charge of an article to which this Act or the regulations apply - that is found in the place; (b) open a receptacle or package that is found in the place; © examine a document that is found in the place, make a copy of it or take an extract from it; (d) seize and detain for any time that may be necessary (i) an article to which this Act or the regulations apply that is found in the place, or (ii) the conveyance; In regards to seizure of personal information without consent: ttp://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=2&Mode=1&Pub=Bill&Doc=C-6_3&File=41#4 DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION BY THE MINISTER Personal information 15. The Minister may disclose personal information to a person or a government that carries out functions relating to the protection of human health or safety without the consent of the individual to whom the personal information relates if the disclosure is necessary to identify or address a serious danger to human health or safety. Getting a warrant: http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=2&Mode=1&Pub=Bill&Doc=C-6_3&File=41#4 Authority to issue warrant and use force (2) A justice of the peace may, on ex parte application, issue a warrant authorizing, subject to the conditions specified in the warrant, the person who is named in it to enter a dwelling-house if the justice of the peace is satisfied by information on oath that (a) the dwelling-house is a place described in subsection 20(1); (b) entry to the dwelling-house is necessary for the purposes referred to in subsection 20(1); and © entry to the dwelling-house was refused or there are reasonable grounds to believe that it will be refused or to believe that consent to entry cannot be obtained from the occupant. Use of force (3) In executing a warrant issued under subsection (2), the inspector may not use force unless they are accompanied by a peace officer and the use of force is authorized in the warrant. (2), a warrant may be issued by telephone or other means of telecommunication on application submitted by telephone or other means of telecommunication and section 487.1 of the Criminal Code applies for that purpose with any necessary modifications Interpretation: this leads me to believe these all apply to a consumer product as defined below if a disease falls under "consumer product" then all gloves are off so the whole bill in regards to vaccination depends on the courts interpretation of "consumer product" and hopefully the law is not amended to redefine "consumer product". "article to which this Act or the regulations apply" "article to which this Act or the regulations apply" means (a) a consumer product; (b) anything used in the manufacturing, importation, packaging, storing, advertising, selling, labelling, testing or transportation of a consumer product; or © a document that is related to any of those activities or a consumer product. "consumer product" "consumer product" means a product, including its components, parts or accessories, that may reasonably be expected to be obtained by an individual to be used for non-commercial purposes, including for domestic, recreational and sports purposes, and includes its packaging. There is nothing I could find conclusive but a wider definition or bad interpretation or amendment of the bill would subject citizens to all of the "health risk" legislation. I'd like to see someone cite a particular line to back their case on the forced vaccination and the likes that they claim in their articles. Part II: C-6 / C-36 Comparison and Synopsis -- My comments / notes are in [brackets]. -- The edits are highlighted with a * C-6 vs C-36 ================= Added [glad they clarified]: “storing” does not include the storing of a consumer product by an individual for their personal use. Updated [Inspectors are no longer above all law, they can still bring in "anyone to accompany them" though]: (4) An inspector who is carrying out their functions and any person accompanying them may enter on or pass through or over private property. Updated from: (4) An inspector who is carrying out their functions or any person accompanying them may enter on or pass through or over private property, and they are not liable for doing so. Updated [An order can only be issued by the Minister now for stopping the manufacturing, importation, packaging, storing, advertising, selling, labelling, testing or transportation of the consumer product or causing any of those activities to be stopped; and any measure that the Minister considers necessary to remedy a non-compliance with this Act or the regulations, including any measure that relates to the product that the Minister considers necessary in order for the product to meet the requirements of the regulations or to address or prevent a danger to human health or safety that the product poses instead of having the order issued by an inspector]: 31. (1) An inspector* may order a person who manufactures, imports, advertises or sells a consumer product to take any measure referred to in subsection (2) if Updated to: 32. (1) The Minister* may order a person who manufactures, imports, advertises or sells a consumer product to take any measure referred to in subsection (2) if Added: (8) The review officer may extend the review period by no more than 30 days if they are of the opinion that more time is required to complete the review. They may extend the review period more than once. Added: Advice available to public [the appointed person / people on the review board must disclose what was advised to the minister, doesn't say anything about anything other than advice though such as a hint or order] (2) The committee shall make available to the public the advice it provided to the Minister. Added [more info on BPA: (**)]: 15. Polycarbonate baby bottles that contain 4,4'-isopropylidenediphenol (bisphenol A). (**) 13 Page report from StatsCan on Bisphenol A. It presents the numbers taken from urine samples and analysis of BPA concentrations by age and gender. Take this official study as you will. We were forced to pay for it, so we may as well read it. Lead and bisphenol A concentrations in the Canadian population http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-003-x/2010003/article/11324-eng.pdf Quote: BPA is recognized as an endocrine disruptor,although its estrogenic potency is under debate. Reproductive toxicity, including effects on fertility and development, has been identified as a key health effect of exposure to high concentrations. Some studies suggest that repeated maternal exposure could elevate BPA exposure in utero or in the newborn. Updated [The minister may arbitrarily appoint a review of their own orders distancing her or himself from recourse the electorate. It is essentially appointing a Tsar or committee and they don't even have to be from our country.]: 33. The Minister may designate any individ-ual or class of individuals that are qualified as review officers for the purpose of reviewing inspectors’ orders under section 34. Updated to [a "qualified individ-ual or class of individuals" is deemed by The Minister, there are no implications other than being qualified. Meaning they could be anyone from anywhere at anytime. This is subject to abuse(**)]: (**) Appointing the review officer can distance The Minister from the case. It can be a foreign agency it can be the company's competitor, can be anyone really. Once it is in the review process the reviewer is granted the powers to renew the hold on the product, documents or anything else pertaining to the product. They can add or remove orders for more property or other items or perpetually by renewing their own order(s) to hold items, halt shipping, stop advertising or prolong the review as long as they tell the owner every 30 days. 30 day extensions are granted unilateral by the reviewer(s) themselves. It used to be "reasonable" which was vague but at least somewhat finite and could be held under discretion. Sending a review board in can also be used to let a company off the hook if the reviewer decides on lifting any of the ministers orders. They can also amend an order however they please, that amendment is then reviewed by the reviewer(s), although a different individual is required to do the review of the new. There is zero accountability for the reviewers only limited oversight and a wide berth of power. At least that's how I read it but I'm no lawyer. If my interpretation is off on anything, let me know. 34. The Minister may designate any individ- ual or class of individuals that are qualified as review officers for the purpose of reviewing orders under section 35. Updated [I'm assuming that "individual" is selected by the Minister, or if the "individual(s)" appointed for the case pertains to that case alone or if the pool of reviewers or class of viewers, once marked as "qualified" are even fit to be qualified for future reviews or can be called upon by another reviewer to review a case if challenged. If not we have a loophole that we could drive a truck through. Also, there is no clear provision for revoking reviewer status or in questioning the selection of one.]: 34. (1) Subject to any other provision of this section, an order that is made under section 30 or 31 shall be reviewed on the written request of the person who was ordered to recall a consumer product or to take another measure — but only on grounds that involve questions of fact alone or questions of mixed law and fact — by a review officer other than the inspector* who made the order. Updated to: 35. (1) Subject to any other provision of this section, an order that is made under section 31 or 32 shall be reviewed on the written request of the person who was ordered to recall a consumer product or to take another measure — but only on grounds that involve questions of fact alone or questions of mixed law and fact — by a review officer other than the individual* who made the order. Added [This could be abused in certain cases as the Minister can bypass parliment AND the legal system and issue what amounts to levy a legal fine and an attack on a businesses functional components, ancillerys and reputation unilaterally]: Recall or measures taken by Minister 33. If a person does not comply with an order made under section 31 or 32 within the time specified, the Minister may, on his or her own initiative and at that person’s expense, carry out the recall or measure required. 31. (1) If the Minister believes on reasonable grounds that a consumer product is a danger to human health or safety, he or she may order a person who manufactures, imports or sells the product for commercial purposes to recall it. REVIEW OF ORDERS FOR RECALLS AND TAKING MEASURES Updated [This edit opens the door for the perpetual renewal of the investigation period, it is no longer subject to a reasonable judgement and is self initiated and accountable only by opinion of the reviewer that has renewed the period.]: (7) A review officer shall complete the review within a reasonable time. Updated to: (8) The review officer may extend the review period by no more than 30 days if they are of the opinion that more time is required to complete the review. They may extend the review period more than once. (9) If the review period is extended, the person who made the request shall, without delay, be notified in writing of the reasons for extending it. References: http://www2.parl.gc.ca/content/hoc/Bills/403/Government/C-36/C-36_1/C-36_1.PDF http://www2.parl.gc.ca/content/hoc/Bills/402/Government/C-6/C-6_3/C-6_3.PDF [Overall the entire process circumvents Parliament in adding to and opens control and regulation of all Canadian business in a selective nature by forces outside the Canadian legal system. Anything else I have to say has been said before.] Health rep Shawn Buckley calls Bill C-36 a "Trojan horse" Excerpt: Right now, Buckley said, “the state cannot take control over your property and gain ownership of it and destroy it and all of these fun things without involving the courts.” However, he noted that Section 21 2 (d) of Bill C-36 allows inspectors to “detain for any time that may be necessary” property found on-site, with no warrant needed and the courts not having to be informed. http://www.straight.com/article-334721/vancouver/health-rep-calls-bill-c36-trojan-horse C-6 vs C-36 Differences Summary by Conservative Party (Torys LLP) The powers of inspectors no longer include the right to order recalls. Only the Minister of Health may initiate a product recall but can do so by proxy in appointing a committee or a tsar. Time limits are imposed on the Minister of Health. Under the CCPSA, a person who is ordered to recall a consumer product or take another measure may make a written request for review of that order. Upon request, review of an order must be completed "no later than 30 days after the day on which the request is provided to the Minister." Previously, no time frame was explicitly defined; rather, a review officer was required to complete the review "within a reasonable time." Currently The CCPSA does not apply to natural health products, food, drugs, cosmetics or medical devices. Source: Conservative Statement / Press on the Differences http://www.mondaq.com/canada/article.asp?articleid=103614 Other Resources: Legislative Summary http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Sites/LOP/LegislativeSummaries/Bills_ls.asp?lang=E&ls=c36&source=library_prb&Parl=40&Ses=3 Status Tracker http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Sites/LOP/LEGISINFO/index.asp?Language=E&Chamber=N&StartList=A&EndList=Z&Session=23&Type=0&Scope=I&query=7037&List=stat Hazardous Products Act (R.S., 1985, c. H-3) http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/H-3/ C-36 – “Part 1 of the Act is Repealed” http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/H-3/page-3.html#anchorsc:1 C-36 - “controlled product” or “hazardous product” means any product, material or substance specified by the regulations made pursuant to paragraph 15(1)(a) to be included in any of the classes listed in Schedule II; 15. (1) Subject to section 19, the Governor in Council may make regulations (a) specifying, for each class listed in Schedule II, products, materials and substances to be included in that class; http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/H-3/page-2.html#anchorbo-ga:l_II Schedule II Products: Class A - Compressed Gas Class B - Flammable and Combustible Material Class C - Oxidizing Material Class D - Poisonous and Infectious Material Class E - Corrosive Material Class F - Dangerously Reactive Material http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/H-3/page-4.html NHPPA Summary: Bill C-36 http://nhppa.org/?page_id=1103 Bill C-36 is almost identical to Bill C-52 which had been introduced into the 39th Parliament on April 8, 2008, and to Bill C-6 which had been introduced into the 40th Parliament on January 29, 2009. Summary of Points Discussed In This Paper · The rule of law is the fundamental underpinning of a free society. Sacrificing the rule of law always leads to tyranny and loss of freedom. · The Bill represents an unprecedented change in the powers of the state vis-à-vis the citizen. The rule of law and private property rights are all but extinguished in the area of consumer products. · Although not applicable to natural health products, the Bill still poses a threat. The Bill gives Health Canada inspectors the very powers that concerned citizens in Bill C-51. · Bill C-36 is being promoted as necessary to protect our families. However, under the existing law the State can already: o ban or restrict any consumer product under threat of million dollar fines and two year jail sentences under the Hazardous Products Act; o make immediate orders banning or restricting any consumer product if there is a significant risk to health or safety. In addition to fines and imprisonment for non-compliance, the State can apply to the Court for an injunction which brings police enforcement of the order; o obtain a search warrant and seize non-compliant products, and o prosecute for criminal negligence or homicide under the Criminal Code. In some cases this can result in penalties of life imprisonment. · The real change brought about by Bill C-36 is not that it protects consumers, as the cur-rent law already grants the State significant powers to protect safety. Rather the real change is the abolition of procedural safeguards citizens currently enjoy. · Bill C-36 abolishes the law of trespass thus allowing the State access onto private property without any legal recourse. · Bill C-36 for the first time in Canadian history allows warrants to be issued to search private homes without evidence of criminal wrong doing. · Bill C-36 allows the State to seize property without a Court order, without reporting the seizure to a Court, and for an indefinite period. · Bill C-36 allows the State to assume control over the movement of private property without a Court order and without a safety concern. · The search and seizure powers in Bill C-36 are probably unconstitutional for violating the right found in section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. · Persons can be fined and have property forfeited to the State for administrative violations. Persons so charged have no right to have a Court determine their guilt or innocence. Guilt is determined by the Minister. There is no defence of due diligence or of honest but mistaken belief. There does not have to be a safety risk to be charged with an administrative offence. The Minister who determines your guilt or innocence can keep seized property if he/she finds you guilty. · Directors, officers and managers are personally liable for violations by their company. Despite the possibility of multi-million dollar fines and long prison sentences, there is no right to cross-examine key witnesses. · Directors, officers and managers can be saddled with debt years after they have left the company. · Orders for recall or which take control of private property are exempted from the procedural safeguards of (1) review and (2) publication found in the Statutory Instruments Act. · All businesses manufacturing, selling or distributing consumer products are saddled with additional red tape and expense regardless of whether or not there is a safety concern. · Retailers and distributors of consumer products become liable for product labelling and instructions. · There may be a significant conflict of interest. Health Canada may benefit financially from fines and the seizure of private property. · Some consumer products such as sporting goods may have to be removed from the market for violating the safety provisions of the Bill. · The Provinces are allowing the Federal Government to regulate in the Provincial area of property and civil rights. This represents a significant transfer of power from the Provinces to the Federal Government. · The federal cabinet can incorporate documents from foreign governments or organizations as law by referring to them in regulations. This will remove Parliamentary scrutiny on issues that could fundamentally change the ground rules for the consumer product industry. · Trade agreements and foreign laws can be adopted without Parliamentary scrutiny. Full Article: http://www.nhppa.org/images/DiscussionPaperBillC36.pdf Part III: The Natural Health Product Strawman Natural health products are not regulated on this bill. At least in initial instance of C-36. I saw a film called A Question of Sovereignty by and deem it to be misleading and presents a straw man to beat down and discredit anyone who obviously hasn't read the bill since half the movie implies that the bill will make natural foods, vitamins, minerals and supplements illegal. This is the text contained in the both the C-6 and C-36 bills. ------------------------------------------------- Natural health products (3) For greater certainty, this Act does not apply to natural health products as defined in subsection 1(1) of the Natural Health Products Regulations made under the Food and Drugs Act. ------------------------------------------------- Constitutional lawyer, Shawn Buckley is featured in the film by there is a lot of the press released where he falsely associates C-6 and C-36 with seizure of health products even through it is clearly stated that they are exempted in the bills. Shawn Buckley is propped up as the public face of the opposition on this bill. He also highlights a line on the that has been removed in the redrafted C-36. Easy arguments to knock down in the commons. They also addressed the film's argument against going into private property and yards without liability by redacting the line from the C-36. They took out the personal storage and persona use for seizure of any consumer product by changing the definition of storage knocking down the other primary argument. It is completely correct in it's assertion that the law can be circumvented by foreign officials and institutions. It is also clear in the idea on the bypass of parliment with the inclusion of the Statutory Instrument's Act. A Question of Sovereignty Writer, Director and Producer Kevin P. Miller (Money as Debt, GenerationRX) had mentioned this recently in his blog but in the film this point wasn't addressed. He also warns us about Codex Alimertarius as well but this can be instantiated on a local level. There are much bigger fish to fry already on the table though such as all of the trade agreements with international and foreign organizations such as WHO, WTO and agreements like NAFTA and GATT. There are really too many to get into in the context of this article but are major factors involved over the regulation of products including health products. http://kevinpmiller.blogspot.com/2010/08/question-of-sovereignty.html Buckley is driving force behind the The Charter of Health Freedom. We'll have to take a closer look at that too. Part IV: Bill C-36 - A Stealth Vehicle to Instantiate Laws, Monitor Everything, Appoint an Army of Powerful Foreign Officials ... So no worries, Natural Health Products are not regulated. Right? Not initially included in the act but it allows this it to be amended unilaterally by the Minister or the Appointed Governor in Council (GiC) who has even more powers including the following: 36. (1) The Governor in Council may make regulations for carrying out the purposes and provisions of this Act, including regulations © amending Schedule 1 or 2 by adding or deleting a consumer product or class of consumer products; this is a tad disturbing too. (k) respecting the performance of an inspector’s, analyst’s or review officer’s functions and the circumstances in which an inspector or a review officer may exercise their powers; ..they can revoke add or change pretty much any of this bill after it is passed and circumvent Parliament and the Courts. The Governor in Council may not even have to be a Canadian citizen, only stipulating that the appointee reside in Canada. GiCs must abide by guidelines in Conflict of Interest, Ethics and disengage from Political Activities. If signed C-36 opens the door big enough to drive a tank through. GiCs to change law in Canada and almost completely totally bypass Parliament and the judiciary. It allows rights and gives unprecedented powers of appointment of officials, foreign and domestic without limits on remuneration. It allows confiscation of property and information. It sets up strict documentation and monitoring procedures on everything to be tendered for commercial use in Canada. It kills business and allows caveats for selective enforcement. On the surface this can tweak a thing here or there but in actuality it can affect other legislation as well since there can be a caveat to repeal or replace other laws that are already instituted like it already does with the Hazardous Products Act. It doesn't just set a precedent in Canadian law, it opens it up to nearly unlimited manipulation. I'll explore this more and make some citations that led me to each conclusion in a follow-up to this post. But the time to act upon this is now by spreading public awareness about this stealthy bill. It's time for Canadians to draw a line and impose consequences towards Canada Inc. not only by strike but by withdrawing our shares in the corporation citing unfair management as just cause. GiC Appointment Process http://www.appointments-nominations.gc.ca/prsnt.asp?page=Process&lang=eng Natural Health Products are current regulated by the Natural Health Products (2004) Regulations made under the Food and Drugs Act. NHPs need to go through a lot of red tape before being approved and are under even more stringent guidelines of efficacy than pharmaceuticals so the vast majority are denied approval. C-36 amended the private property paragraph and and removed the no liability section. Kevin P. Miller didn't put this in the addendum at the end of the video. This is bill that is full of holes and gives far too much power to the Minister, Inspectors (unelected), Reviewers (unelected) and the Governor in Council (unelected). There are over 2,000 Governor in Council appointments representing all sorts of interests. I originally posted this on the Facebook C-36 Discussion Board RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Steath Coup - icosaface - 09-20-2010 08:38 PM Thanks FastT. RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup - FastTadpole - 11-20-2010 09:39 PM Quote:Business raidshttp://digg.com/news/politics/business_raids http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politics/Business+raids/3853614/story.html FaceBook Group :: Group STOP The new Bill C-6. Now Bill C-36. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=56640858309 RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup - FastTadpole - 11-24-2010 09:56 AM A guy I'm working with on raising awareness on this issue. Parliament has done what they will -- demands are obviously moot. The Senate appears no better. Quote:A Canadian View of Bill C-36http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLG1sjr52sU RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup - FastTadpole - 11-25-2010 01:26 AM To keep it simple more information and resources available here: The Official Bill C-36 Consumer Product and Safety Act (Full Text) http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Docid=4606148&file=4 Jeremy Arney's Blog Offers up Further Analysis on C-36 the guy in the video above http://jeremyarneysblog.wordpress.com/ STOP C-36 Facebook Group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=56640858309 National Health Federation Canada http://thenhf.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/National-Health-Federation-Canada/156776631026487 Canadian Action Party http://canadianactionparty.ca/ http://forum.canadianactionparty.ca/ How Bill C-36 Helps The North American Union Agenda NAU Resistance Analysis http://nauresistance.org/2010/09/how-bill-c-36-helps-the-north-american-union-agenda/ Notify our members of parliament how you feel, just copy and paste: andrer@sen.parl.gc.ca, anguswd@sen.parl.gc.ca, bakerg@sen.parl.gc.ca, gautht@sen.parl.gc.ca, boisvp@sen.parl.gc.ca, brownb@sen.parl.gc.ca, callbc@sen.parl.gc.ca, campbel@sen.parl.gc.ca, carigc@sen.parl.gc.ca, carsts@sen.parl.gc.ca, champa@sen.parl.gc.ca, chapum@sen.parl.gc.ca, cochre@sen.parl.gc.ca, rattel@sen.parl.gc.ca, coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca, cordyj@sen.parl.gc.ca, cowanj@sen.parl.gc.ca, dallar@sen.parl.gc.ca, dawsod@sen.parl.gc.ca, dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca, debanp@sen.parl.gc.ca, tessil@sen.parl.gc.ca, dininc@sen.parl.gc.ca, pdowne@sen.parl.gc.ca, dyckli@sen.parl.gc.ca, egglea@sen.parl.gc.ca, fairbj@sen.parl.gc.ca, finled@sen.parl.gc.ca, foxf@sen.parl.gc.ca, frasej@sen.parl.gc.ca, fruml@sen.parl.gc.ca, fureyg@sen.parl.gc.ca, harbm@sen.parl.gc.ca, hervic@sen.parl.gc.ca, hublee@sen.parl.gc.ca, jaffem@sen.parl.gc.ca, johnsj@sen.parl.gc.ca, joyals@sen.parl.gc.ca, kennyco@sen.parl.gc.ca, kinsen@sen.parl.gc.ca, kochhv@sen.parl.gc.ca, charrf@sen.parl.gc.ca, lavigr@sen.parl.gc.ca, lebrem@sen.parl.gc.ca, losier@sen.parl.gc.ca, smithc@sen.parl.gc.ca, mahovf@sen.parl.gc.ca, marshe@sen.parl.gc.ca, massip@sen.parl.gc.ca, mccoye@sen.parl.gc.ca, meighen@sen.parl.gc.ca, mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca, Aglukkaq.L@parl.gc.ca, glenda.yeates@hc-sc.gc.ca, anne-marie.robinson@hc-sc.gc.ca, kin.choi@hc-sc.gc.ca, michelle.kovacevic@hc-sc.gc.ca, paul.glover@hc-sc.gc.ca, carolina_giliberti@hc.sc.gc.ca, karen.dodds@hc-sc.gc.ca, irit.weiser@hc-sc.gc.ca, meena.ballantyne@hc-sc.gc.ca, siddika_mithani@hc-sc.gc.ca, diana.dowthwaite@hc-sc.gc.ca, collin.pinto@hc-sc.gc.ca, christine.zaczynski@hc-sc.gc.ca, chris.turner@hc-sc.gc.ca, duc.vu@hc-sc.gc.ca, robert.leitch@hc-sc.gc.ca, susan_gardner-barclay@hc-sc.gc.ca, hasan_hutchinson@hc-sc.gc.ca, nancy.richards@hc-sc.gc.ca, Michael_vandergrift@hc-sc.gc.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca All Senators. Health Canada’s policy makers responsible for creating and forwarding Bill C-36. The Minister of Health. Prime Minister. Each Senator name below (members of the Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology) is linked to their Parliamentary website. Here you can see exactly who will be responsible for recommending to Senate that Bill C-36 become law. DAVID BRAILEY © T: 613-943-0040 F: 613-943-0083 braled@sen.parl.gc.ca CATHERINE S. CALLBECK (L) T: 613-943-0686 F: 613-943-0693 callbc@sen.parl.gc.ca ANDRÉE CHAMPAGNE © T: 613-995-3999 F: 613-995-4034 champa@sen.parl.gc.ca JANE CORDY (L) T: 613-995-8409 F: 613-995-8432 cordyj@sen.parl.gc.ca JACQUES DEMERS © T: 613-992-0151 F: 613-992-0128 tessil@sen.parl.gc.ca LILLIAN EVE DYCK (L) T: 613-995-4318 F: 000-000-0000 dyckli@sen.parl.gc.ca NICOLE EATON © T: 613-947-4047 F: 613-947-4044 eatonn@sen.parl.gc.ca ART EGGLETON (L) T: 613-995-4230 F: 613-995-4237 egglea@sen.parl.gc.ca YONAH MARTIN © T: 613-947-4078 F: 613-947-4082 martin@sen.parl.gc.ca PANA MERCHANT (L) T: 613-944-7777 F: 613-944-7778 merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca KELVIN KENNETH OGILVIE © T: 613-992-0331 F: 613-992-0334 ogilvk@sen.parl.gc.ca JUDITH SEINMAN © T: 613-992-0110 F: 613-992-0118 seidmj@sen.parl.gc.ca Quote:** NO WITNESSES ARE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE **http://nhppa.org/?page_id=1750 Scheduled Meetings http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Committee_SenMeet.asp?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=3&comm_id=47 Status of Bill C-36 http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Sites/LOP/LEGISINFO/index.asp?Language=E&Chamber=N&StartList=A&EndList=Z&Session=23&Type=0&Scope=I&query=7037&List=stat C-36 BILL TEXT UPDATE: Coming into force information updated to November 24, 2010 In Force: 76. The provisions of this Act come into force on a day or days to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council. Source: http://nhppa.org/?page_id=1750 RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Only 48 Hours of Discussion Rema - icosaface - 11-25-2010 03:43 AM Thanks for thr list of email addys FT, I sent them a note asking that they cease and desist with Bill C - 36. RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Only 48 Hours of Discussion Rema - Deathaniel - 11-25-2010 07:35 PM Shitty ... wll @ least we can have gardens still... Not sure where the people lost there "will of the warrior" though i do understand them now wanting toxic shit to be sold to us or made here, I mean i won't even buy toys if they r from china... but the lack luster requirements for warrants is a bit disturbing. RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Only 48 Hours of Discussion Rema - h3rm35 - 11-25-2010 08:10 PM sounds like some fucked up legislation... the parallels between the powers granted to the GiC and the new head of the "FDA" under HR 875 (the bastard, orphaned older brother of S 510) are uncanny, particularly the post-passage lack of influence from the legislature. Sounds like they had the same law firm draw up both bills. Many of the power-grabbing legalese twists seem to come out of the same play-book. Good luck, Canucks. RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Only 48 Hours of Discussion Rema - FastTadpole - 11-30-2010 07:27 AM Well we have one Senator on our side at least .. but I'm am far from resting and/or assured. Quote:RE: Bill C-36 an act respecting consumer product safety in committee already!Source: Personal Email RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Only 48 Hours of Discussion Rema - icosaface - 11-30-2010 03:37 PM Two senators, (Elaine McCoy and Joseph Day), wrote me to say that they had voted to let Tuck and others speak but the conservative majority had over ruled them. RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- Only 48 Hours of Discussion Rema - FastTadpole - 12-01-2010 05:57 AM Quote:Wednesday, November 24, 2010http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Committee_SenNotice.asp?Language=E&meeting_id=11549&Parl=40&Ses=3&comm_id=47&past_meet=1 Quote:Wednesday, November 25, 2010http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Committee_SenNotice.asp?Language=E&meeting_id=11550&Parl=40&Ses=3&comm_id=47&past_meet=1 Random person to contact: Cyndee Todgham Cherniak at 416-307-04168 Website: http://www.thehstblog.com/ (yeah the HST she presided over that theft too) Cyndee Todgham Cherniak, Counsel at Lang Michener LLP, is a sales-tax and trade lawyer and adjunct law professor at Case Western Reserve University School of Law in Cleveland. She can be reached at cyndee@langmichener.ca Here's the entire Second Reading of the bill: Quote:Canada Consumer Product Safety Billhttp://www.parl.gc.ca/40/3/parlbus/chambus/senate/deb-e/067db_2010-11-18-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=3#29 RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- 2nd Senate Reading Passed! - h3rm35 - 12-01-2010 07:37 AM I know very little about the machinations of Canadian government, but in the US when something is referred to committee, it usually means that you won't be hearing about that bill for a while, and being referred to committee is often the last step before a bill dies in its current incarnation. Is that the case here? What kind of time-line are we looking at? Is it any use for a US citizen to get involved? RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- 2nd Senate Reading Passed! - FastTadpole - 12-01-2010 10:35 AM It means 3rd and final Reading and hammering out some amendments, notably those in terms of privacy. The timeline will likely be swift I feel an election brewing and this is the last act to hammer in so they are hastening the passage. It was 16 days between first and second reading so third should fall ~10th of Dec by my estimate maybe sooner. Quote:Is it any use for a US citizen to get involved? Just post, tweet and link where you can. I did the same for the US kill farming act. The US sets law for Canada so it seems. I have heard rumblings of a new deceptive constitution for the US that is already drafted and cleverly worded. It's supposed to be a lot like the UN Charter of Rights which is based on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Watch for it. RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- 2nd Senate Reading Passed! - FastTadpole - 12-09-2010 04:38 AM RE: Committee Senate has long standing custom to debate the principle of all bills and to ensure they all go to committee (i.e., pass second reading) so we can hear from Canadians on the subject matter. However, that is a custom, not a rule. e.g. C-311 (Kyoto Implementation) was killed on 1st reading. If that is true (hear from Canadians) this is the best opportunity to stop C-36. Here's an excerpt from a blog of one of the 2 senators (The other being Day) I have heard from to date. Quote:Senate: The New Silent Zone?http://www.albertasenator.ca/hullabaloos/printerfriendly.php?article=542 Here's a bit on what the Senate is discussing in terms of the information sharing issue that has been focal in the debate: Quote:Another provision of the bill that has been cause for question is the ability to share information. As parthttp://admin.albertasenator.ca/flashblocks/data/Hullabaloos/Bill%20C-36%20Committee24Nov2010.pdf Here's a copy of my email sent off to all Senators which invoked a single response to date. I kept it short and specific to procure the most response possible. I'm hoping for more feedback from the recipients. Quote:Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:50 PM RE: C-6 / C-36 Canadian Consumer Product and Safety Act : Analysis of A Stealth Coup -- 2nd Senate Reading Passed! - FastTadpole - 12-13-2010 04:16 AM Here is another updated, corrected and formatted listing email, fax and phone listing with names to paste in your favourite email client. I've sent out three emails to all Senators in the past 2 months to all 105 senators. 2 Responses (1 of them from an assistant the other a form letter - both non committal). When emailing send them off in small batches or, better yet individually and not too close together. Definitely hit the committee (listed above). I suggest calling and snail mailing them as well. They have a disclaimer that says that implies there is strong spam filtering for the most effective grassroots citizen lobby possible. Search for them and their assistants on Facebook and Twitter too! If someone can compile or dig up a list they would be lauded with "likes" and "pokes" of the highest grade and greatest calibre! Here's a quick copy paste that will work in most email clients. Code: Day, Joseph <dayja@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Banks, Tommy <gautht@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Cordy, Jane <cordyj@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Callbeck, Catherine <callbc@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Campbell, Larry <campbel@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Carstairs, Sharon <carsts@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Chaput, Maria <chapum@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Cools, Anne <coolsa@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Cowan, James <cowanj@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Dallaire, Roméo <dallar@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Dawson, Dennis <dawsod@sen.parl.gc.ca>; de Bané, Pierre <debanp@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Downe, Percy <pdowne@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Dyck, Lillian <dyckli@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Eggleton, Art <egglea@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Fairbairn, Joyce <fairbj@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Fox, Francis <foxf@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Fraser, Joan <frasej@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Furey, George <fureyg@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Harb, Mac <harbm@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Hervieux-Payette, Celine <hervic@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Hubley, Elizabeth <hublee@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Jaffer, Mobina <jaffem@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Joyal, Serge <joyals@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Kenney, Colin <kennyco@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Lapointe, Jean <charrf@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Lavigne, Raymond <lavigr@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Loisier-Cool, Rose-Marie <losier@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Lovelace-Nicholas, Sandra <smithc@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Mahovlich, Frank <mahovf@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Massicotte, Paul <massip@sen.parl.gc.ca>; McCoy, Elaine <mccoye@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Mercer, Terry <mercet@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Merchant, Pana <merchp@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Mitchell, Grant <mitchg@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Moore, Wilfrid <moorew@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Munson, Jim <munsoj@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Murray, Lowell <murral@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Pépin, Lucie <pepinl@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Peterson, Robert <russem@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Poulin-Charette, Marie-P <poulim@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Poy, Vivienne <poyv@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Ringuette, Pierrette <ringup@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Rivest, Jean-Claude <jcrivest@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Rompkey, William <rompkw@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Smith, David <smithd@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Stollery, Peter <stollp@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Tardiff, Claudette <tardic@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Watt, Charlie <wattc@sen.parl.gc.ca>; Zimmer, Rod <zimmer@sen.parl.gc.ca>Code: Harper. Stephen <pm@pm.gc.ca>; Ignatieff, Michael <ignatieff.m@parl.gc.ca>; Layton, Jack <layton.j@parl.gc.ca>; Duceppe, Gilles <duceppe.g@parl.gc.ca>; May Elizabeth <leader@greenparty.ca>; Aglukkaq, Leona <aglukkaq.l@parl.gc.ca>; Nicholson, Rob <nicholson.r@parl.gc.ca>; Savoie, Denise <Savoie.D@parl.gc.ca>; Martin, Keith <Martin.K@parl.gc.ca>; Crowder, Jean <CrowdJ@parl.gc.ca>; cbcnews@cbc.ca <cbcnews@cbc.ca>; CBC <national@cbc.ca>Send as many as you like -- please! |