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I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - NickHedge - 03-21-2010 02:25 AM
Political sports is tiring. Just watching this stuff really takes it out of you. I don't know whether to be scared or excited.
I have been paying particular attention to the cheerleaders of "conservatism". The labeling that is being thrown around is ridiculous. Conservative, Republican, Liberal, Democrat, Independent, etc. They all mean the same damn thing. In the end, there is no difference.
What these idiots (politicians) have in common is that they are power hungry. They are in the job for one reason and one reason alone.....power. How many people do you know that if they were put into those positions wouldn't be? It's like taking an honest man and having him sell used cars. Eventually he is going to become corrupt in order to sell his cars. He has no choice if he wants to compete. Or so he thinks. There is no room for honesty in politics or sales. Those 2 positions are very similar.
Here we have a man in the position of head knocker in DC and these are the things you DON'T know about him:
1. Where he was really born
2. What his nationality really is
3. What his school records show
4. What his "real" birth certificate shows
5. Who his parents really were
6. What kind of childhood did he really have
7. Who has really put him into this position of power
8. Who was responsible for him changing his name and why
9. Where he learned what he knows
10. Who is his handler
I can give you opinions as answers but I have never seen an "official" answer on any of these questions. Probably never will. But how many commander in chiefs have had these kind of questions looming over them constantly? And no one really cares either. If they did they would be in DC demanding he get out of office (physically dragging him out) and that's not happening.
Something else that is a curious thing is the HC bill. The federal abortion topic. I keep wondering why the right questions aren't being asked.
1. If a woman goes to a Women's Clinic for an abortion, all she has to do is prove she has no income and the abortion is free. Who is paying for it? The State? The Federal Government? Who? Who funds the abortion clinics?
2. If the HC bill passes wouldn't the federalization of abortion be nothing more than the federal government having the power now to determine who will and will not be "sterilized"? Isn't abortions just another way to use "sterilization" and call it an abortion? Wasn't that what was done in Germany? Sterilizing the poor so that they don't reproduce?
3. Isn't the HC bill going to be responsible for putting all small and medium size businesses out of business? Isn't that what it is designed for really? Bringing the lower and middle class people down to "serfdom" status? Keep them so poor that they will never be a problem?
4. People who don't buy the insurance will go to jail. Won't the jails become overcrowded? Aren't they overcrowded now? How overcrowded will they become? And if that happens what then? Will that be where the military gets their bodies? What will be done with all those "criminals"?
**Has anyone ever thought about the numbering system that Nazi Germany used on the work camp inhabitants? When the people got their numbers that was what they were referred to as. What is the difference between that numbering system and our SOCIAL SECURITY numbers? Didn't the Social Security number system come into being just after the war? Could Germany have been nothing more than one huge dry run for America later on?
5. Won't this really be Nazi Germany all over again? Just more progressive and more technological?
6. What good does it do to march on DC if the media blacks it out? Where I live you wouldn't think there were any problems at all. People are all going about their business as usual. There is no talk of Tea Parties or DC or anything else. If I didn't ever turn on the TV or radio I wouldn't know ANYTHING AT ALL about them. I am of the belief that it is this way in the majority of the country. Most people are going about their business - STILL ASLEEP at the wheel. They aren't even close to waking up.
This whole thing is interesting in spite of the fear or excitement. Listening to the knuckleheads talk and KNOWING that they are dis-informationalists approved by the state to be on the air and saying what they are given to say is fascinating. Listening to the morons calling in and going on and on about things that they do not understand is tedious at best.
But what is the most interesting is the fact that there is truth in the dis-information. Reason why? Because criminals love to brag about their crimes. What is the best way for a criminal to brag - national media. They gloat and brag all the time. The mouth pieces they use are on the air 5 days a week sometimes in more than one format. The way they are guiding the people with this HC bill is fascinating.
Telling the people to write/call/fax/march is ridiculous. I am listening to this and asking OUT LOUD why are you telling them to do these things? That will make no difference to anyone.
*Why not tell the people to go to DC and ARREST them as criminals. Make citizens arrest? Why not?
*Why not melt down ALL THE PHONE SYSTEMS in DC? Why stop at the Capital? Why not meltdown DC?
*Why walk the halls of the Capital? Why not descend on it and have a sit in and refuse to let the criminals leave their offices - if you don't want to arrest them?
This is what gives the dis-info people away.
Has anyone realized that after this bill passes that there will cease to be anymore elections? Once this bill passes that is it for this country. We will be in 3rd world status by the end of the year. I believe that. Things will change so completely and so fast after Sunday that it will blow the people's minds.
And I do believe the bill will pass.
The people have to pay for having a free ride for so many years. Had they kept their heads about them and not gotten so complacent and lazy and medded up they would have seen this coming. But now it is way too late.
You can't just buy things and indulge yourselves on and on for so long without having to pay at some point. Because we are a nation that believes in having the toys and having fun and never taking responsibility we are due for something like this. I find it interesting that people are actually upset about this. They should be looking in the mirror and screaming at themselves "Why didn't I wake up"? or "How did I let this get by me"? or "What was I thinking"? or "HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO STUPID"? But people won't do that. Because what would be staring back at them in the mirror is someone they don't want to see.
Just curious musings.
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - Deathaniel - 04-12-2010 10:23 PM
(03-21-2010 02:25 AM)NickHedge Wrote: Political sports is tiring. Just watching this stuff really takes it out of you. I don't know whether to be scared or excited.
agreed if you have no the balls to sell you have not the balls to lead, the meak are weak!!!!!
Quote:1. If a woman goes to a Women's Clinic for an abortion, all she has to do is prove she has no income and the abortion is free. Who is paying for it? The State? The Federal Government? Who? Who funds the abortion clinics?well some redemption with last rant... people don't wake up cause they can't handle the truth, and it's a good thing most will be wiped out asi t saves us wise ones from having to keep wiping up after them when there gone... most of the people you encounter out there are beyond being submissive, they are Goium!!!
luckly the external things that will affect the whole globe is more then even they can control, and so them and there cattle will be swept aside...
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - yeti - 04-13-2010 05:08 PM
(03-21-2010 02:25 AM)NickHedge Wrote: The people have to pay for having a free ride for so many years. Had they kept their heads about them and not gotten so complacent and lazy and medded up they would have seen this coming. But now it is way too late.
I don't know who you've been hanging out with, but neither me nor anyone else I know have been getting anything close to a free ride. I've watched my taxes go higher while my income has shrunk steadily for the last 30 years. We're slaves for the bankers. It's been them who've had a free ride...
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - Deathaniel - 04-14-2010 01:37 AM
(04-13-2010 05:08 PM)yeti Wrote: I don't know who you've been hanging out with, but neither me nor anyone else I know have been getting anything close to a free ride. I've watched my taxes go higher while my income has shrunk steadily for the last 30 years. We're slaves for the bankers. It's been them who've had a free ride...
well man any person who lives more then 3 mths on welfare is getting a free ride... i pay taxes, so sure i'm intitled to help in crisis if i need it but thoses who love on the system from cradle to grave or even for a few years... really..... thats a FREE ride man!
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - FastTadpole - 04-14-2010 02:15 AM
(03-21-2010 02:25 AM)NickHedge Wrote: Here we have a man in the position of head knocker in DC and these are the things you DON'T know about him:
Here is some insight into these questions. Notably the missing time he had presumably spent at Columbia University.
Barack Obama, Former CIA Agent
The cradle to grave support is an illusion it's moreso bait to break up families. A woman can get more if she is single with kids (welfare etc.) than if she stayed with a guy that makes an average wage.
I don't like getting into personal stuff so much but my experience illustrates this point perfectly. In my case as a teenage Dad (in Canada) it wasn't even a debate as to whether my ex could get more $$ out of the government if I was out of the house or dead. My ex now gets a cheque from the government, a monthly cash child benefit, doesn't have to pay tax on the support I send my kids way (I do - at least it isn't double taxed), gets a huge tax write-off on her income tax (I don't) and as a bonus doesn't have to put up with me . Because of social culture she has also gotten the additional benefit of paid vacations, meals and drinks as a single woman. Parents (relatives and friends) are much more willing to support their adult children more so than if she was with a guy. She is often lauded for being a strong single mom (she is) socially.
Don't get me wrong I am just pointing to the financial reasons, really it worked out best for us both and I still spend plenty of time (Friday to Sunday + some holidays - some holidays) with my 2 boys.
This is quite a typical case. Their is no financial incentive to stay with a middle income man for a woman. A man cannot present a better financial situation unless he makes really good coin which often translates into long hours and fatherless children. This can also work in reverse maybe I should have used the term 'single parent'.
Social Engineering agenda = Divide and Conquer + Perpetual Debt + Total Control
Great broadcast on this by The Celtic Rebel on this subject
Social Engineering 101 - Celtic Rebel
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - Deathaniel - 04-14-2010 02:32 AM
(04-14-2010 02:15 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: The cradle to grave support is an illusion it's moreso bait to break up families. A woman can get more if she is single with kids (welfare etc.) than if she stayed with a guy that makes an average wage.
Tragic... i do agree with the agenda you speak... not condone, but realize it exist. Only way around it is to pic an old school woman who is not after the almighty buck... mine whines bout it, but is old school and will not break up the fam to get a richer man. They are raised to have shame for looking for a hand out from the gov, or abondoning the family for personal glory/ desire so thats not an option. it's how you raise your kids...
teach them to PITY the poor, and to treat them like Special needs... give surplus to them and invite them to your tabel... and raise them to realize a partner is for life...
instead we give them shit for ragging on the dirty, fat, or poor.. and so they grow up accepting it's ok.... it's not!!! Ambition is the spark that moves the world, it's what makes kids in other areas of the world poor-er areas more resiliant.....
now if your wife (which by lefty standards is a HERO), were a proper woman your kids (and there boys too what a shame) would not be with out a dad... and the truth is if you'r able to have them you should as who better how to teach a boy to be a man then his father... if he's one...
but of course greed is the central issue here... if we were not such consumers... i have forced my wife to live with in our means, we do not suffer i get to enjoy a few pitchers a week and though we both work we make what one person would make as my wage is nothing... I'm not bi-lingual in Ottawa , the trick is to not have credit cards, and to make things last, if we lived as she wants i'd be working 80 hr weeks and selling crack to the locals to make enough!!! But a MAN, and at times the WOMAN, which ever understands numbers more just have to say NO to a bigger home, newer car, new clothers every month.... and if done and not in a Major city which kills you in rent, a famliy of (well me 5) can survive and thrive together... the dollars and cents don't lie, it's the brainwashed gold gigger, compeat with the jones next door syndrome that does, as it's a never ending battle. and one orchrastrated to do as listed above, divide and conquor!
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - ldrancer - 04-14-2010 09:47 AM
trust what they tell you to do. don't bother thinking, they'll do it for you. heh hehehe
oh god oh god oh god.
hahahaha man come on. really. ok. well then. i'll go along with it if you will.
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - FastTadpole - 04-14-2010 11:50 AM
Quote:now if your wife (which by lefty standards is a HERO), were a proper woman your kids (and there boys too what a shame) would not be with out a dad...
To be crystal clear, yes that does happen in a lot of cases, but me and my ex are still good friends and I see my boys plenty they have a present, emotionally available and engaging Dad. I was just using my experience to illustrate the financial situation from a different perspective. The social engineering is quite a separate point although it is the ultimate goal of the agenda IMO. We didn't split because of the government carrot, more because we held different values and were a bit young but we both tried for several years to make it work for the kids. The cash wasn't the motivation in this case that was more of a side benefit for her. She's a fine woman, not perfect, but plenty ok in my book - don't make me come over there
Listen to Celtic Rebel's show for his break down of the social engineering aspect, he says it much better than I ever could.
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - NickHedge - 04-14-2010 02:06 PM
You know that I was referring to the masses when I was speaking about a free ride. The majority of the people in this country fall into that group. The ones who work hard and pay their bills are in fact in the minority. I have traveled the country enough to know this to be true. This country PROMOTES a welfare state. "Most people" if given the easy way will in fact take it and you know that to be a fact. We see it everyday. If any effort has to be put towards ANYTHING at all people whine and cry about having to do things the "hard way". When did things change?
Today the doctors, hospitals, etc are there to give you a pill for everything. Most of the advertisements you see anymore are all for meds now. For every pain (real or imagined) there is a pill. You ever listen to the side effects that are in the ads? Most of them will kill you. But people take them.
Reality is a hard thing to handle. People are no longer equipped for it. They have pills for reality though, they are called anti-depressants and taken long enough will achieve their desired end - death.
I work hard and pay my own way. I do my job to the best of my ability and watch people all around me slack, avoid responsibility, make excuses and refuse to do their jobs. And if you try to help them they GET ANGRY. What is that? You are punished for trying to do a good job? Do you have any experience with that?
The majority of the people in this country want to believe the lies, they want someone to take care of them. They want to blame everyone else and they don't like it when someone points these things out to them and they will go beyond vilifying and demonizing that person. The majority have no right to complain about anything, they are getting what is coming to them. It's not the fault of the elected leaders. They didn't SNEAK into office, the majority carried them in on their shoulders singing and celebrating that that leader would save them from themselves.
How pathetic can the majority of people actually be?
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - yeti - 04-14-2010 05:55 PM
(04-14-2010 01:37 AM)Deathanyl Wrote:(04-13-2010 05:08 PM)yeti Wrote: I don't know who you've been hanging out with, but neither me nor anyone else I know have been getting anything close to a free ride. I've watched my taxes go higher while my income has shrunk steadily for the last 30 years. We're slaves for the bankers. It's been them who've had a free ride...
OK fine, ignore my point completely. Bash people who are no threat to you while letting major criminals off the hook. The elite need the sanction of people like you.
Quote:If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - yeti - 04-14-2010 06:07 PM
(04-14-2010 02:06 PM)NickHedge Wrote: Yeti,
If your country was Canada, I would disagree 100% with your opinion.
Canada is owned and run from sea to sea to sea by and for corporations, many of them foreign, many of which make billions in profits but pay NO TAX. Does that sound like the U.S. too?
I'll say again - I don't hang around with freeloaders, and I don't buy the lie that it's the peoples' fault that we're in this mess...
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - NickHedge - 04-14-2010 06:22 PM
Then how do these people get into positions of power unless the people vote them in?
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - h3rm35 - 04-14-2010 06:24 PM
Considering how much certain people on this forum bash on democrats (not that they don't deserve it,) it's amazing how much the same people imitate JACKASSES!
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - yeti - 04-14-2010 07:32 PM
(04-14-2010 06:22 PM)NickHedge Wrote: Then how do these people get into positions of power unless the people vote them in?
You're joking, right? Do you actually think there is no voter fraud? What about the fact that candidates can't even get on a voting ballot without being owned?
BTW, I agree with your original premise that society is losing its moral compass. In my short time amongst humans I have noticed a stunning increase in the tendency of people to want to game the system - after all, their leaders are doing it...
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things - NickHedge - 04-14-2010 09:27 PM
Duh, yeah I know about voter fraud, but can we please move past the obvious? We all know the game is rigged. But you still are forced to look at the people.
Do the people have a voice in their own "elections" (or selections, if you will)? No, they don't. But they BELIEVE they do. They tell themselves they do. Most politicians begin life as lawyers. They already know how to manipulate words and situations. They know what the people want to hear and they know the law and how to manipulate it.
Ever see the episode of "Family Guy" where Lois runs against Mayor West to clean up the city? She started out trying to be honest with the people but they didn't want to hear honesty. Then she realized if she used "buzz words" like "9-11" they went wild with enthusiasm. It's too close to reality.
That is how it is in real life, with one exception. Most politicians don't start out honestly. They already know the game. The new game becomes what lies will get them where they want to be. All they have to do is say the magic words (whatever they may be). Barry used the line "Change you can believe in". People wanted anyone but Bush so they bought the line. They wanted something different. They got it. He didn't tell them how different or in what way it would be different. NO ONE ASKED HIM. The people are to blame for this. For being so desperate, so gullible, so blind, so deaf, so stupid.
If someone cons you out of your money, who's fault is it? The con mans? Or yours?
The right answer is that it is your fault. The con man didn't force you to give up your money. You willing gave it to him. It's your fault. The same game applies to politicians. Both games are rigged, that's a fact. But you will only give up your money if you WANT to believe what you are being told. You will only support a politician if you want to believe what you are being told. Same difference.
Rig the voting all you want. But no matter who you choose you will lose. It's a no win situation. BUT THAT DOES NOT ABSOLVE THE PEOPLE. Here's why.
Bush beat everyone over the head with "Patriotism" after 9-11. If people were true PATRIOTS they would have never let things get this far gone to begin with because they would have been protecting what they say they hold so dear to them. The people have become so complacent and lazy and negligent that ANYONE who tells them something that tickles their ears would be the new flavor of the moment. That is all it takes. Had the people been watching from the very beginning they would not be here now. But they slacked, they took the easy way, they CHOSE to believe the lies. No one made them. They chose. Now they have a mess that is bigger than they are and there is nothing they can do about it. Because even now they are scrambling to try and save toys, houses, things, jobs, etc. They are scared shitless of losing all that they have accumulated. They still don't get it. I listen to these people and their excuses, their heads are still in the wrong place. They won't get it until much, much later, if they ever do at all. They haven't even gotten really angry yet. They are still waiting for the stock market to move or for jobs to being again, or for better times just around the corner OR FOR THE RIGHT PERSON TO SAVE THEM. They haven't lost enough yet. Haven't been hit hard enough yet. Haven't suffered enough yet.
They still believe after all this that there is someone out there who will help them. They will not take matters into their own hands - they don't know how. They have forgotten what it is to be independent.
If you tell me that you can't see this, I don't know what else to say. I have tried to make it as simple as I can, it cannot be that hard to see.