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Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - hardboiled11 - 12-03-2006 07:51 AM
It looks like 2008 is the year that the new real ID law will go into affect.
Read the FAQ on cnet
Quote:What's all the fuss with the Real ID Act about?
U.S, U.K and AUS are all getting the id cards introduced by 2008.
SOMETHING TO DO. My friend says he is leavying by 2008, puuhhh what a noob.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - hardboiled11 - 12-11-2006 10:33 AM
Good thread on this subject.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - blove8. - 12-11-2006 11:19 AM
The Real ID Rebellion
Stopping a Police State: A Pocket Guide from Refuse & Resist!
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - flatron - 12-14-2006 09:41 PM
would you say leaving the country is a cowards way out? i had thought about this.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - aaronmann - 12-15-2006 10:13 PM
this has been talked about for quite some time, yes, they're really going to do it. and leaving the coutry eh, where would you go? certainly not to europe, all of europe is just as controlled as is much of the rest of the world, by the same powers. russia, australia, parts of africa (northern mostly), odviously the middle east occupations, and even much of south america.
seriously. the only non-globalist countries are propagated to make us think they're bad. cuba, iran, venezuala ...
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - wokensheep - 12-15-2006 10:36 PM
yeah its here its passed and its coming. 2008 scares the crap out of me. i dont know what im going to do. there really is no where to run to or hide. only thing to do is to say NO im not taking your stupid card. for everyone to protest this thing like no tommorow, or we are screwed. that card is a serious victory for the nwo. and its not going to go away any time soon.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - Shinobi - 12-15-2006 11:15 PM
Thing is that remains, is .. what exactly are they going to do to billions
who refuse this, who do not agree with this, and simply do not want this
What are they going to do to us people who want nothing to do with it ? Are we going to be jailed, are we going to be fined ? If thats the case, then surely people have to start getting together frequently to stop this bullshit from happening. Can we as people stop it ? Yes we can, and we know we can, but the only thing stopping a mass majority 'IS FEAR' .. The only fear I have is people running out on me when im putting my back on the line to stand up to all of this.......and believe me im prepared to give my life to stand up to this type of bullshit
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - wokensheep - 12-16-2006 01:26 AM
Homeland Security chief defends Real ID plan
12 / 14 / 06 |
WASHINGTON--U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Thursday defended forthcoming national ID cards as vital for security and consistent with privacy rights.
Chertoff said one of his agency's top goals next year is to forge ahead with recommendations for the controversial documents established by a federal law called the Real ID Act in May 2005. By 2008, Americans may be required to present such federally approved cards--which must be electronically readable--to travel on an airplane, open a bank account or take advantage of myriad government services such as Social Security.
"I think this is an example (of) when security and privacy go hand in hand," the Homeland Security chief said in a half-hour speech at George Washington University here. "It is a win-win for both."
The importance of such documents was magnified by an announcement Wednesday, Chertoff said. Federal authorities reported that they had made more than 1,200 arrests related to immigration violations and unmasked criminal organizations stealing and trafficking in genuine birth certificates and Social Security cards belonging to U.S. citizens.
"Do you think your privacy is better protected if someone can walk around with phony docs with your name and your Social Security number, or is your privacy better protected if you have the confidence that the identification relied upon is in fact reliable and uniquely tied to a single individual?" Chertoff asked rhetorically.
The upcoming federally approved IDs are intended to be a secure, tamperproof means of protecting Americans' identities while keeping out terrorists and other wrongdoers, Chertoff said.
The Homeland Security chief, who is nearing his two-year mark with the agency, was likely trying to quell rampant skepticism about the IDs voiced by some privacy advocates, immigrants and other groups. Some have said they fear that the IDs are a stepping stone to a veritable police state, complete with ready surveillance of individuals.
Some have argued that the idea of creating more tamperproof IDs is only a marginally better way to screen out those intent on committing terrorist acts because ID cards don't even begin to tackle a core crime prevention challenge: determining a person's unspoken intentions.
State governments have also been critical of the 2008 deadline and what they have said amounts to an unfunded mandate to switch over their systems. A September study released by the National Governors Association, National Conference of State Legislatures and American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators estimated that the overhaul of their identification systems (PDF) would cost states more than $11 billion over five years. The New Hampshire state legislature even considered passing a law earlier this year that would prohibit the state from complying with the federal Real ID law.
Homeland Security has yet to issue congressionally mandated recommendations for the cards, so it's unclear how, exactly, they would work. The cards must contain, at a minimum, a person's name, birth date, gender, ID number, digital portrait, address, "physical security features" to prevent tampering or counterfeiting and a "common machine-readable technology" specified by Homeland Security.
A recent draft report by a DHS advisory committee(PDF) advised against using radio frequency identification technology, or RFID, in tracking humans because of privacy concerns.
The purpose of Chertoff's Thursday morning speech was to reflect on the agency's work during the past year and to outline goals for 2007. For the past year, he focused on three major areas: immigration and border security, Hurricane Katrina recovery and a foiled terrorism plot originating from London in August.
Conspicuously absent was any mention of the department's cybersecurity plans. After more than a year of delay, Chertoff hired Gregory Garcia, who had been working as a vice president at the Information Technology Association of America lobby group, as the department's first assistant secretary for cybersecurity. That step came after the department had sustained repeated bashing of its efforts in that realm from members of Congress.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - Shinobi - 12-16-2006 01:45 AM
Okay bro, thanks for that. Whats your own outtake on this whole I.D thing
though Woken Sheep, what do you say about it? ah man I feel alone sometimes saying what I say, I need to know people are with me heck! not just me, the billions who dont fucken want this!
Am I the only one who is gonna stand up to this bullshit ? huh .. wheres the true truth soldiers at ? It's these things that get ignored that get swepped under, or people just dont pay attention because they got
the latest nintendo wii or playstation 3 .. wtf u know.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - Shinobi - 12-16-2006 01:51 AM
I been in full support of these guys here http://www.no2id.net/
for a damn good while
and in turn they do give support too through the many things they do
but still I just feel this isnt gonna be enough to hold that I.D shit back
Im stressing here.. I know its not gonna work
I like the old way of doing things too much, and thats with force...
tis the only way I can see real shit going down:(
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - drunkenmunky - 12-16-2006 03:28 AM
I personally can't stand the idea of the ID card, it makes me sick. Unfortunately here in the UK nearly everyone I talk to doesn't know anything about it, and come 2008 they will probably get a surprise and just accept it.
As far as I know, the ID card wasn't agreed upon by the general public, whom every Government gets their power from originally. And I find it hard to see a way of getting out of this situation. Of course one way could be to remove of the faith people have in the cash note, and use items which cost what they are worth (Gold Standard) assuming this is where the funding comes from. I dunno.....
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - aaronmann - 12-16-2006 09:49 AM
brits have already been offered a national id card and they rejected it.
Quote:yeah its here its passed and its coming. 2008 scares the crap out of me. i dont know what im going to do. there really is no where to run to or hide. only thing to do is to say NO im not taking your stupid card. for everyone to protest this thing like no tommorow, or we are screwed. that card is a serious victory for the nwo. and its not going to go away any time soon.one of my favorite sayings comes to mind when i read this. FUCK YOUR WARS, FUCK YOUR BORDERS, WE WON'T FOLLOW YOUR FUCKING ORDERS. sorry. hope i don't get warned for profanity here.
Quote:Okay bro, thanks for that. Whats your own outtake on this whole I.D thingi'm with you. 100% against a national id control grid.
Quote:I been in full support of these guys here http://www.no2id.net/i too am aware of the NO2ID site. thanks for posting about it in this thread.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - Easy Skanking - 12-21-2006 03:52 AM
I am against this as well. Everyone I show the info to shrugs it off and claims I'm overreacting about the significance. I guess no one but me read "1984" when it was assigned reading in school. :dazed:
Thanks for the NO2ID link. Some good stuff on that site.
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - drunkenmunky - 12-21-2006 04:00 AM
Quote:brits have already been offered a national id card and they rejected it.
Although they rejected it, I thought the Government sneaked the order in anyway.
ID cards will provide legal UK residents, including foreign nationals, with an easy and secure way of proving who they are.
ID cards will be linked to their owners by unique biometric identifiers (for example, fingerprints), which mean we will have a much stronger way of protecting people's identities. Background checks will ensure that claimed identities are real and not stolen, and will prevent criminals using multiple identities.
The exact format of an ID card isnt yet decided but its likely that it will be a credit card-sized plastic card featuring the holders photograph and a computer chip storing basic personal information.
Wholl be eligible for an ID card?
You will be eligible for an ID card if you are:
UK resident for three months or more
over the age of 16
When will ID cards be introduced?
Our decision to introduce a National Identity Scheme was announced in the Queen's Speech on 17 May 2005. The Identity Cards Act received royal assent, becoming law, on 30 March 2006.
We will introduce biometric residence permits for foreign nationals in 2008 and we expect the first ID cards to be issued to British citizens in 2009."
Looks like 2009 may be the year of Neo Slavery
Has Anyone Posted This Yet? Real Id Act 2008 - MsLed - 12-30-2006 02:23 PM
Soon there will be nowhre to run no where to hide, We all need to take stand for are wrights. Id cards will onl lead to personal chips and we will soon have no say what goes on in are lifes.
Are we really going to sit back and let this happen?