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H.p. Lovecraft - discocat - 02-20-2007 03:24 AM
hey everybody
Where did Lovecraft get all his ideas for his books. Everything he wrote seems to have a very occultish feel to it. I heard he got his ideals from his experiences in the occult. Yet I don't have any infor to confirm this. Or is it just pure fiction. Does anyone know anything about his life or his untimely death? Seems like he lived a strange life.
H.p. Lovecraft - SerialExpLain - 02-20-2007 03:41 AM
You might find Kenneth Grant's books very interesting, also Other Nations by T. & P. Marsh.
Google: Typhonian Current, Typhonia Tunnels, (lots of related reading there)
The Art of H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos, Edited by Pat Harrigan and Brian Wood
is very interesting also.
H.p. Lovecraft - StingingNettle - 02-20-2007 06:58 AM
Yes, I've heard things like he got into a family members freemason books. Some other authors have talked about where he got into the writing he got into. He could have just been a good researcher.
H.p. Lovecraft - fjaneson - 02-22-2007 06:48 AM
I agree he was learned but prolly had familial connections to the Illums.
I remember discovering Lovecraft when I was about 14. Then I remember finding out that Dagon was
not an invention of his, but a worshipped entity. Then I got scared. Then I found out that LOTS of ancient cultures talk about Fish People. (for example see Goddess Columbia by Freeman Perspective)
By now, I'm flipping terrified.
Every horror movie owes a debt to Lovecraft. And Poe, of whom HP was a great exponent.
Lots of people know that the movie(s) 'The Thing' are based on Cambell's story 'Who Goes There'
But it can be traced back further to Lovecraft's 'At the Mountains of Madness'.
Of course, then you get people like Bill Schnoeblin who claim to have actually summoned some of these
elder beings. That guy is a riot. "I was in the masons,the illums, a satanist,a warlock, and a druid and signed blood oaths to all of them and now I'm a Rabbi telling Christians about Cthulhu." Hahaha. You Swear, Bill?
His talks are interesting to watch though.
Thanks for the search criteria, SerialExpLain.
H.p. Lovecraft - hardboiled11 - 02-22-2007 10:29 AM
Quake one was based alot off his work, its crazy.
H.p. Lovecraft - lovelyk - 02-22-2007 11:08 AM
Quote:Where did Lovecraft get all his ideas for his booksFrom Al Azif's "The Cipher Manuscript"
H.p. Lovecraft - Shinobi - 02-22-2007 12:08 PM
Look in to the original works of Necronomicon & Re-Animator
for good measure
then come back and tell me what you thought.
What was that ? You wanted to know more .. ok:)
here http://www.hplovecraft.com/
H.p. Lovecraft - GutSmoke - 02-22-2007 04:10 PM
I am as big a Lovecraft fan as anyone, but the sad fact is he got his inspiration mostly from the fact that he didn't like non-whites and the thought of them coupling with whites terrified him. But at least he wrote well about it. All the occult crap was just that: crap. If you'd ever study the occult, you would know that.
H.p. Lovecraft - fjaneson - 02-23-2007 02:46 AM
Hmmmm. Intriguing!! We shall have to look into this, eh, how you say, 'Occult'. . .
He did have some off-color views, though these were in line with the 'science' of the times.
I could see viewing other races as 'alien', although the appellation comes to my mind most often when dealing with my own 'race'. He was more scared of Eskimos (Inuits) IMHO than Black People.
H.p. Lovecraft - discocat - 02-24-2007 02:31 AM
You all will find this article quite fascinating. As it shines light on the whole "Old ones" mythos.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciar...enciareal15.htm
He was scared of Eskimo's LOL Now thats very strange. I for one em very scared of Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth; and they might me real!! YIKES!!!
H.p. Lovecraft - StingingNettle - 02-24-2007 03:34 AM
"Yog-Sothoth"
Oh yes. That's the one in the illuminatist trilogy thats trapped in the Pentagon in Washington dc, and why the hippies gather around the pentagon and shout "out demon Out!".
I haven't read to much lovecraft yet. I have read some of his short stories in "The thing on the doorstep". Some are very fun to read.
H.p. Lovecraft - SerialExpLain - 02-24-2007 03:48 AM
Another take on the subject is proposed in this book:
The Cult of Alien Gods: H.P. Lovecraft And Extraterrestial Pop Culture by Jason Colavito ,
H.p. Lovecraft - The Doctor - 02-25-2007 01:06 AM
Quote:I agree he was learned but prolly had familial connections to the Illums.Maybe he just had a good imagination, something that a lot of people don't have anymore due to television and pop culture using up all of their mental compute cycles.
Lovecraft was known to suffer from night terrors and horrible nightmares, and writing was one of the ways that he dealt with the things his subconscious was torturing himself with.
Quote:I remember discovering Lovecraft when I was about 14. Then I remember finding out that Dagon was not an invention of his, but a worshipped entity. Then I got scared. Then I found out that LOTS of ancient cultures talk about Fish People. (for example see Goddess Columbia by Freeman Perspective)Lovecraft was a writer; he networked with other writers of his time and freely traded ideas among them. That is why the mythos has so many authors using it as a backdrop for their own work - they all helped come up with it. If Lovecraft didn't do the research, then maybe one of his peers did.
Quote:Every horror movie owes a debt to Lovecraft. And Poe, of whom HP was a greatIt's too bad that the horror of genre can't hit the bulls-eye with a single one of his stories.
Quote:Of course, then you get people like Bill Schnoeblin who claim to have actually summoned some of theseFor every individual making such claims, there are two magickians burning the midnight oil actually trying to pull it off. They're usually too busy Working to talk about it.
elder beings. That guy is a riot. "I was in the masons,the illums, a satanist,a
H.p. Lovecraft - lovelyk - 02-25-2007 09:30 AM
Quote:people like Bill Schnoeblin who claim to have actually summoned some of these elder beingsThey can be summoned!!
To understand what really the "Olders ones" are, one can read Enoch, testament of Solomon or can study islamic concepts along with Al-Azif's (the mad arab) story.
They simply are Fire-beings, Al-Jinn, also known as Demons.
H.p. Lovecraft - yeti - 02-25-2007 09:55 AM
Quote:You have personal experience? Cool! I suggest you call an agent right away! Geraldo Rivera based an entire show around opening a freakin' box supposedly containing a dead guy. Just think what YOU could do!Quote:people like Bill Schnoeblin who claim to have actually summoned some of these elder beingsThey can be summoned!!
I'm gonna go out and buy one of those big widescreen TVs and tell all my freinds I know you!
Just remember us little guys when you're famous!