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The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - horseonwheels - 09-22-2007 02:39 PM and if you were the least awake, youd realise that most of your points have been raised on other posts in the same forum, for your sake. Why havent i seen you in any of those debates? oh, thats because youre have your head up your arse and yopu dont see what isnt presented right in front of your own navel. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-22-2007 04:13 PM Quote:Starjade doth laugh. Trust in me they already twitter with fear and shock. I am someone who wipes the smiles off all Christians and Muslims faces. I invited them here to Conspiracy Central. I have no plans to speak on their Islamic moderated forum. But did they appear here haha oh no they are control freaks. Quote:Horseonwheels you said; that is you lying. All the forums are used there and debates do take place all over. There are more thread movement in free talk, simply because the subjects rarely have the depth required in the other categories. You invited them, and they think youre full of shit, so nobody came. I think youre full of shit so im still not reading what you post either, so there you go. Starjade says; Stop deluding yourself. Some have said they will arrive here but are reading my writings so that know what they are facing. On their forum it is now 04 pages long and rising. Not all Islamic web sites are afraid of religious discussion. I displayed many on the End of Times web site. But those conversations started here and are already 20 pages long. The Muslims there are having a right good chat with me and already they have learned a few things. You read what I post and we both know that otherwise how could you know what I am saying about you. Quote:Horseonwheels you said; Dont try to make it a conspiracy of control because it isnt. You have not been banned from there, the thread you posted is still being visited. So the "islamic moderation" you talk about is all in your head. Starjade says; On some forums I got banned after 54 pages. They got stuck in between that Rock and the Starjade place. It was the jesus thingy that really got to them. Of course on all forums I am always the most popular writer. The writers did not like my being banned but the moderators lost their mojo and their cool. They knew islam had bitten the Dust and Muslims were converting. Quote:Horseonwheels you said; Now, if you go back there you are about to learn that what you know about islam, the whole case upon which you rest your case is false to begin with. Islam is not what you have been told that it is. So...you loose by default..... "prophet" LOL. Starjade says; I already know what islam is. It is a moon worshipping cult that idolises a false Prophet with a Golden calf called the Koran. I am still writing on their forum and putting across some points of view. They are still not responding to the errors I have said exist in the Koran which are displayed on their forum. But as long as they read the point will get across. Just shows there is a conspiracy of silence in religion and it is being exposed. Oh and they do know they are talking to someone who can be established by Deuteronomy law to be a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God. Lets see how they react to that one. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-22-2007 04:20 PM Quote:Starjade doth laugh. Trust in me they already twitter with fear and shock. I am someone who wipes the smiles off all Christians and Muslims faces. I invited them here to Conspiracy Central. I have no plans to speak on their Islamic moderated forum. But did they appear here haha oh no they are control freaks. Quote:Horseonwheels you said; that is you lying. All the forums are used there and debates do take place all over. There are more thread movement in free talk, simply because the subjects rarely have the depth required in the other categories. You invited them, and they think youre full of shit, so nobody came. I think youre full of shit so im still not reading what you post either, so there you go. Starjade says; Stop deluding yourself. Some have said they will arrive here but are reading my writings so that know what they are facing. On their forum it is now 04 pages long and rising. Not all Islamic web sites are afraid of religious discussion. I displayed many on the End of Times web site. But those conversations started here and are already 20 pages long. The Muslims there are having a right good chat with me and already they have learned a few things. You read what I post and we both know that otherwise how could you know what I am saying about you. Quote:Horseonwheels you said; Dont try to make it a conspiracy of control because it isnt. You have not been banned from there, the thread you posted is still being visited. So the "islamic moderation" you talk about is all in your head. Starjade says; On some forums I got banned after 54 pages. They got stuck in between that Rock and the Starjade place. It was the jesus thingy that really got to them. Of course on all forums I am always the most popular writer. The writers did not like my being banned but the moderators lost their mojo and their cool. They knew islam had bitten the Dust and Muslims were converting. Quote:Horseonwheels you said; and if you were the least awake, youd realise that most of your points have been raised on other posts in the same forum, for your sake. Why havent i seen you in any of those debates? oh, thats because youre have your head up your arse and yopu dont see what isnt presented right in front of your own navel. Starjade says; I have only just visited that forum so I had no Time to explore for I was inviting them here by your request. Well now the deed you shirked is done. Yes I have seen those other points of errors found in the Koran writ by other writers who do not have my confidence. I read them but I have my own arguments and points of accounts to put across and I am coming from a different angle than anything they have ever known before. My Sura 4:82 challenge has again been issued. Those other writers were not challenging Islam as I am. Those writers now are joining in my debate and Sura 4:82 challenges and that will make them stronger. That is what you wanted wasnt it. Now you see I have challenged the whole of Islam and their scholars should be wary as I gave them plenty of warning on who it is they now have to face. With your own eyes you can now see that I am the Only Lord King of this apocalyptic castle and you can watch as those stand against me bite the Dust. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - horseonwheels - 09-23-2007 10:39 AM you havent posted nothing yet that in any way support all these outragious claims of yours, but you ahve earned that which you deserve, ridecule. Now go back there and have your ass handed to you some more, im having great fun, and it hasnt even started yet. Untill you start to present facts, and relevant verses, all they are going to do is laugh at you. Its kindda cute that you belive in prophets, do you belive in fairies, trolls and gnomes too? how about santa claus and the easter bunny? The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - The Mekon - 09-23-2007 03:16 PM Hey Horseonwheels He's a Liar. Either that or he's too stupid to recognise it. I think he believes in me, point 1 to stupidity. Hey starjade you better ignore this next bit. I am real? I am worth answering? and yet you claim not to care for other realities and consequently the people that make them. Whoops you're dumb! My reality and your delusion? If only you could hear yourself, you'd think you were mad. It's quite obvious you're not listening, even from here I can see you with your fingers in your ears going "lalalalalalalalalalala". What use is a mirror if you can't see? ... i suppose you can still snort your coke off it. Unfortunately for your children, you're not really there. I doubt you're there for anyone. Your unconsciously perceived inadequacies have you doing spasticated intellectual contortions that would make some psychologists cum in their pants. Awesome! Jesus eh? please join the jesus queue we've plenty of room here at the delusions of grandeur hotel, I just wish you'd all stop pushing to the front like you're someone important. I swear nothing ever gets done here. The voice in your head doth say "I told you they'd redicule you, don't worry thats just more proof I'm right, it's not you, it's never you, how could it be you" *nervous twitch in hands* "it's be them, they are the adversary yeah even the children so what if they're yours!" If only I can annoy them enough with my own sense of self importance, they'll leave me alone to try to get more of their attention.... Yeah that makes perfect sense, damn I love this reality stuff - it's like the silly putty I play with at nursery... or was I sectioned? Either way my silly putty penis is by far the best I've seen and the Living God agrees *talks to face painted on hand* "don't you Mr Living?" *mimes hands response* "oh yes Mr CocksuckingGenius" *smooches hand*..... Like I said starjade that wasn't for you so ignore it, I was channelling for the Tooth Fairy. Sorry this is probably the wrong forum. BTW there is a nasty conspiracy out there that is probably out to get you specifically - The Mental Health Commission. Look out!!! The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-24-2007 10:43 AM Starjade says; I suggest that you go back and read the pages horseonwheels as already I have shown many errors , contradictions and errors in the Koran. You are just avoiding them, however, all other posters will have seen them even if you pretend that you dont. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-26-2007 10:47 AM :D Still a no show eh. They who bragged the brag blow out wind as they bury their heads in the sand leaving just one orifice left to talk out of. In the immortal words of the much loved Deuteronomy Prophet Starjade I told you so. :rolleyes: The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:16 PM :D Yo Horseonwheels. Didnt you brag that brag that those Muslims would give me a run for my money. Hahaha I am eating them for breakfast just as I said I would. It seems you overestimated them. They are in between a shirk a denial and that Starjade place. :rolleyes: I have outright shown them how the Koran is proven to not come from God and that the silly claims of Muhammad are untrue. No Muslim there has been able to dispute those facts. So what was you thinking eh? Have you got any more crumbs for my breakfast table. Might eventually get a meal out of it. Whereas the only thing you Muslims are getting to eat is from biting the Dust. :rolleyes: The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:19 PM And come on the rest of you. Have you nothing to say to the replies I have been kind enough to give to you. Reality is a cold dish to serve. Are you joining that conspiracy of religious silence. ? The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:30 PM :D Yo Horseonwheels. I just tried to logonto that islamic forum and they have banned me. So then that makes you wrong yet again doesnt it. And as per usual it makes me right. I did say no Muslim can defend the Koran or the silly claims of Muhammad. Told you so hahaha told you so. I have got everytthing on disc and so they cannot hide the conversation. Why not go and look and see if they erased the Sura 4:82 challenge. Clearly they will want to decieve their Islamic congregations especially as I grow in popularity. So then Horseonwheels what you got to say in your one liner bulldump quips eh. Is it sorry Starjade you were right all along. To which I shall say told you so. I did have some last replies I could not post to them but I did give them links to this forum to hold that Sura 4:82 challenge in. So I thought I would post my last statements here so if they dare appear they will know what was being said before their moderators banned me. :D The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:32 PM Quote:Navid you said; Starjade, Thank you for displaying your skills in copying and pasting. Starjade says; Look here things take time to write and as they are already writ then why should I not copy them from word and post them. Do you think I should spend hours re writing something already writ. That is just silly. I have too many conversations with other people to have my Time wasted on trivial things. Whats the matter are those errors and contradictions In the Koran too deep for you or too tough to respond to. Why do you avoid this matter about Jesus and Muhammad both proclaiming themselves to being that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up? Why does 11 Chapters of the Koran glorify Jesus when Deuteronomy law proves Jesus and the New Testament Testimonies already to be a Fraud. Why would Muhammad then believe in Jesus only to say he is that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up when that is the Prophet that Jesus claimed himself as being. And what you pretend you cannot see the contradiction. How come you as a Muslim did not know that Muhammad proclaimed he was that Prophet that Moses said the Living God promised Moses he would raise up when Muslims all around the world are in conflict about this very proclamation bragging that Muhammad as a descendant of Abraham must be that prophet not Jesus. They argue over the matter of thy brethren being the meaning of it being Ishmaelites. Then going to lengths to speak of the descendancy of Muhammad. Do you think they do that for no reason or is it that you lack historical knowledge of the religion of Islam that you follow. Why would Muhammad claim he fulfilled also the Prophecies of Isaiah when Isaiah was speaking of the coming of that long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet. You are very nieve to the claims of your own religion and the activities of Muslims world wide. (cough) Be wary now . Do you make the statement on behalf of the followers of Islam that Muhammad is not that Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. I demand an answer and what you say be sure will be displayed as an admission on many other forums. Many will be Islamic as well as Jewish and Christian forums. Do you make the statement on behalf of the followers of Islam that Muhammad is not that Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. Quote:Navid you said; That said, STILL waiting for internal contradictions in the quran. Please present two or more supposedly contradicting verses (all from the quran) and explain why you think they are contradicting. Thank you. Starjade says; I have already staggered many errors and contradictions on every page in this thread. To pretend you do not see them is you being a Kuffar Shirker. Others can see them. I have even more staggering lists of errors existing in the Koran displayed on many other forums around the world. Do not pretend that they do not exist for they are displayed as proof of your shirking lies. Now I admit that not all of those errors are significant and are petty. You would sought them out to respond to those whiles ignoring the more damaging errors found in the Koran and in the claims of Muhammad. This Jesus thing and 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus are just one of those errors you have no explanation for just shirkers excuses. This does not show you in a good light. Those who follow my activities will notice your avoidance of the cold reality of the staggering amounts of errors found in the Koran and you will become known as being shirkers. Of course the much loved Deuteronomy Prophet Starjade grows in power by your very denial. With those immortal words of told you so as you clearly bite the Dust. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:33 PM Quote:Samia you said; Hahahaha Now everytime I read "Starjade says" I'll Starjade says; Be sure the laugh will be on you. Starjade has islam by the short and curlies. In a more public forum such as TV and Newspapers Islam as a whole will bite the Dust and your Islamic scholars know they are powerless against me and my God given revelations. Your false laughs do not hide the truth of reality they show you wimper noises like a dog that got run over and is trying to save face by licking its wounds. Do you really sit there so nieve to think that I would not realize my power over your religion. You have nothing to laugh at. Whereas I will be smiling all the way to the bank as I am the only one who is the King of this apocalyptic castle and all who come to face me are seen to shirk as they bite the Dust. [11.38] And he began to make the ark; and whenever the chiefs from among his people passed by him they laughed at him. He said: If you laugh at us, surely we too laugh at you as you laugh (at us). The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:33 PM Quote:Aaron you said; starjade: actually leroy jenkins is famous in cyberspace... he even had a reference on jeopardy, so he is famous in real space too... iris? never saw her on jeopardy or youtube Starjade says; Iris lives in America but she is well known in cyberspace as well. Unlike you Iris and myself visit mainly religious forums speaking with the congregations. I have never heard of Leroy Jenkins and so he is not as famous as you claim. Quote:Aaron you said; and when i said your webpage is brutal i didn't mean that the content was harsh towards those it is speaking against... Starjade says; Well it is blunt and to the point and all those who stood against me did bite the Dust. Many were Islamic and Christian Scholars. Because I am blunt and to the point those conversations may appear harsh but sometimes you have to appear cruel to be kind. I was saving them from themselves and the deceptions of man that has been brought before them. On the whole the web site is informative and it has had over 1 and a half million visitors since it went up. It is not my web site by the way. It belongs to the American Philosopher Liberty Girl who began collecting my writings years ago. Quote:Aaron you said; i meant it is brutal in the fact that it looks like absolute garbage, half the content is unreadable due to your bad font choices, and puff the magic dragon smoking a pipe is really distracting. your layout blows. Starjade says; I prefer to write in Times new Roman as the lettering is smaller and easier to read. I chose white fonts as it stands out better on the background pages. The brick wall scene is because I liked the idea of the words of the Prophet are written on the subway wall. I loved that Dragon Gif and the other characters. Had you read the pages the Dragons vanish from site so your comments are petty. It gives a bit of life to the forum. Others love it. It is what is written that counts and those facts crucify many religions that follow false Prophets and false Gods. It is the maps that are important and my intent as that Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. Have you ventured into my conversations with the Muslims yet and saw them bite the Dust. They had Islamic scholars on those forums who loved debating matters with me. Some Shirked of course but most got chatting. Now they are real Muslims. They still bit the Dust and they were more experts on the religion of Islam more so than you would think that you are. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:34 PM The Deuteronomy Prophet Starjades views on the Koranic statements voiced to the Miscellaneous: The deceptions of the shirkers here remind me of something I read in the Koran. [2.42] And do not mix up the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know (it). Once again you Muslims ignore the Koran just as you are doing with the Sura 4:82 challenge of the Koran. Shame upon you. And just where on earth do you find yellow cows.? [2.69] They said: Call on your Lord for our sake to make it plain to us what her color is. Musa said: He says, Surely she is a yellow cow; her color is intensely yellow, giving delight to the beholders. The Koran says Moses sees yellow cows. Just what was Muhammad smoking? The Korans says Moses killed a yellow cow. Did he mean a Golden Calf? it doesnt say so. I would have stuck a yellow cow in a circus as that must be a sight to beholdeth. I wonder if they have purple cows I have heard of purple rain? The Koran says; [2.73] So We said: Strike the (dead body) with part of the (Sacrificed cow), thus Allah brings the dead to life, and He shows you His signs so that you may understand. Sounds like necromancy to me. What kind of black magik are you Muslims getting yourself into? None of these Koranic tales are true. Allah is Hubal alilah the pagan moon god. Cows do not shine yellow in the pale yellow moon light. And the moon does not bring back the dead. How can you believe this silliness. When you read the Koran have you Muslims found this reference to Muhammad. ? [2.78] And there are among them illiterates who know not the Book but only lies, and they do but conjecture. A reference to the Koran as well. That is that conjecture. Look here Muslims or who so ever you are. The Old Testament already is a book of morals and the Koran is seriously lacking. The Koran is the Arabs Golden Calf. The Koran itself admits that it does not come from the Living God of Abraham and of Moses and of the much loved Deuteronomy Prophet Starjade. So go read it and take notes. Sounds like you need that illumination. Mind you the Buddhist doctrines will cause you to walk a more moral path but that is another story. The Koran says; [2.83] And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside. Starjade says; Now plagurism is rife trying to copy and re word the Old Testament rewording it to speak of the pagan moon god Hubal alilah is an act of blasphemy. How funny in the Cow that we see the Koran speaking of the Israelites when in the Old Testament they were Hebrews. The Ishmaelites were always Jealous of the Israelites. And not long ago some Muslim bragged that Muslims do not recoginise the Old Testament even though it is the source of these stories. Tsk Tsk Tsk .I hope you all recall what I said about that then. The Koran says; [2.87] And most certainly We gave Musa the Book and We sent apostles after him one after another; and We gave Isa, the son of Marium, clear arguments and strengthened him with the holy spirit, What! whenever then an apostle came to you with that which your souls did not desire, you were insolent so you called some liars and some you slew. Starjade says; Dont you knoew how to write Moses. And the name for Jesus in the Qur'an is given as "Issa." Yet this is incorrect. Issa is the Arabic equivalent of Esau, the name for the twin brother of Jacob. The correct Arabic name for Jesus would be Yesuwa, similar to the Hebrew Yeshuwa. One of the best known errors is that concerning the confusion between Mary, recorded in the Qur'an as the sister of Aaron and the daughter of Imran (Biblical Amran) as well as the mother of Jesus (by implication in suras 19:28; 66:12; 20:25-30), though the two, Mary and Miriam, lived 1,570 years apart. And what is more as the law of Deuteronomy testifies Jesus is a fraud. The New Testament is a hearsay testimony written by the Romans. Furthermore, Jesus claimed he was that long awaited prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. (cough) 11 Chapters of the Koran glorify Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself as being. (cough) erm isnt it also a fact that Muhammad has proclaimed himself to being that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of those Jews. Starjade says; I have decided to add this Sura to that ever increasing list of errors found in the Koran. [2.113] And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ. The fact is that the Jews quote the Old Testament. The Christians quote their New Testament. They are not the same book. They are separate books. All Bible as one book containing the Old and New testaments are all Christian published in their hope they can convince people that Jesus was that long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. The Koran again is in error for Jews and Christians do not follow the same book. The Jews follow the Old Testament and reject the scam of the New Testament. The Christian have to quote the Old testament for their fabricated claims but they usually only quote from the New Testament. This is yet another errors in the Koran you Muslims cannot defend. Certainly not against someone who has my superior religious knowledge and who is established by Deuteronomy law to be a Prophet who does have a provable connection to the Living God. I will eat anyone for breakfast if they ever grow a backbone to ever dare try argue these points with me. Humph The Koran also says; [2.115] And Allah's is the East and the West, therefore, whither you turn, thither is Allah's purpose; surely Allah is Amplegiving, Knowing. Starjade says; remember what I said about Hubal alilah whom the Arabs and others worshipped. The Moon rises in the East and follows the Sun traveling westwards. [2.118] And those who have no knowledge say: Why does not Allah speak to us or a sign come to us? Even thus said those before them, the like of what they say; their hearts are all alike. Indeed We have made the communications clear for a people who are sure. Starjade says; (cough) might have something to do with your god Hubal alilah being the moon. Anyways just a few comments for now. Whiles I visited spare moments farm. Of course you know I have more to say dont you. Seems like the rest of you are rather short on conversation. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 09-28-2007 01:41 PM As you can see Horseonwheels those Muslims you bragged about were getting a roasting. They were just as powerless to defend islam as you or any other Muslim is. Do not forget of course that these conversations were done under islamic law that binds them. So those Muslims shirked Islamic law. It was also done under the Sura 4:82 challenge of the Koran which they shirked and they had many lists of errors found in the Koran that they could not account for. I shall of course when able display all those conversations on the End of Times web site for all to see how easy it is for islam and the Koran and all the very silly claims of Muhamad bite the Dust. Oh and a poster asked me to invite iris onto their forum. Iris is a Christian minister of over 20 years with an astonishing knowledge of religions. She does not like the way Muslims treat women. Iris is even more of a prolific writer than I am. She emailed me and today confirmed when time allowed she was going to pay them a visit. EEEeeeeeeeek......So there is going to be a backlash. Say do you wanna make a bet as to how long it is before they ban her startling knowledge about Islam. It is clear Horseonwheels that you bragged an empty brag. The only person telling the truth of all things is that much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade. And I say still Islam and its followers bite the Dust. Yippee Ki Yeah you muther fuckers. :D Starjade is still the Lord King of the apocalyptic Castle and all who stand against him are going to bite the Dust. |