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The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:27 PM Muslims claim that the Koran supercedes the Old Testament and the New Testament and only the (cough) so-called Revelations of Muhammad are valid. Of course, they do not explain that the very claims of Muhammad are all taken from the Old Testament, which was not corrupt when they stole that claim and without the Old Testament Prophets and prophecies, Muhammad would have no claim to make no matter how invalid it was to be seen to be When examined even by the Sura 4:82 word of the Koran itself it is openly seen to be a petty fabricated fraud and a golden calf book that did not come from God. This makes the Koran a blasphemy and something detestable in the eyes of the living God and according to Islamic law that I have invoked in the beginnings the Koran and the words of Muhammad must be rejected. Islamic law then states Muslims must convert. If Muslims think, they can argue to the otherwise then why do they not appear. We all have minds and judgments of our own and we can see that 11 Chapters of the Koran are glorifying Jesus as being that Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself as being whiles the Koran then glorifies Muhammad as being that very Prophet that Jesus has already claimed himself as being. We can all see that is not logical or possible and serious errors existing in the Koran proving that the Koran does not come from God. Muhammad and the Koran are caught out in 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus and other chapters glorifying Muhammad as being the very same Deuteronomy Prophet. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:28 PM Quote:Jesus said in John Chapter 5 Verse 46: for had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me, for he wrote of me. Verse 47: But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words. The whole tale of the New Testament was a tale writ so it might be believed to be the fulfillment of the Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up. The Roman Christians were making a proclamation that Jesus was that specific Prophet which is why they call Jesus the King of the Jews. Muhammad also proclaims himself to being that very same Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15/18 Prophet. They both claim the (cough) Angel Gabriel appeared to give proclamations for Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, this (cough) Angel Gabriel is also standing against the actual word of the Living God who only promised Moses that he would raise up one Prophet. Not two. So the Koran is littered with staggering amounts of errors. The reason I mention this fabricated Angel Gabriel of course is that the very words of the Koran are said to have come from this Angel Gabriel. Yet the words of this fabricated Angel Gabriel stand against the actual words of the living God. Error after error. 11 Chapters of errors show much discrepancy in the Koran and as the Sura 4:82 states this is the proof that the Koran did not come from God. I have other lists of errors found in the Koran to a number of many hundreds. The Koran has without any doubt been established to not be a book that came from God as mad Muhammad has claimed also establishing that he was a liar and a fraud and not a prophet from God. He is a self-appointed false prophet who is presumptuous to think he could speak in gods name. The Koran has bitten the Dust. Eventually as stated by the Islamic law I have invoked in the beginning. Muslims are going to have to reject the Koran and the words of Muhammad. You Muslims have been caught out in a lie, you are being misled, and you are misleading others with a pack of lies that are detestable in the eyes of the Living God. The thing I find most funny apart from all these funny things. Is that according to the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 and onwards Muhammad was established as being a fraud in the beginning. In addition, by a law that was brought down by Moses himself from the Living God. This makes that specific law the actual word of the Living God. How funny that a law brought down by Moses has always established that Muhammad was not that specific Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. Very apt. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:28 PM So then, the evidence is there for all to see. The Koran is established to not come from God and there is not a single thing any Muslim or even a collective of Muslims can do to argue against those facts. Even the Koran itself says; Sura 4:82. Do they not consider the Koran with care for if it had come from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepancy therein? Well there is much discrepancy therein proving by the word of the Koran itself that the Koran did not come from God. Therefore, we all know why it is that Islamic scholars and their Imams cannot defend Islam from the Revelations of the real Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade and you can all see why I would scoff at those who think that they could do. You Muslims can go whine and moan about my Revelations but remind yourselves that these conversations are done under Islamic law and by the request of Muslims who challenged me to challenge Islam. Well I have taken up that challenge and Islam, the Koran, and the false words of Muhammad have all bit the Dust. Now go shout that off the Mountain and tell it to your Islamic scholars and your imams and dare them all to come online and face me. Warn them I am not a novice and already you have bitten the Dust. I have seen how the Koran was fabricated as a copycat of the Old and New Testament. Copying the Old Testament tales but re wording them in the unjustified favor of the Ishmaelites. Speaking as if it was Ishmael who was offered up for sacrifice instead of Isaac Tsk Tsk Tsk .Changing the statements of the Old Testament in Islamic propaganda that does not wash even to this very day. Of course, in the Koranic version Muhammad implies for himself the same scam as the Christians did for Jesus to pretend that he was that Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15/18 Prophet. How funny then for Muhammad not to realize that Jesus has already claimed he was that Deuteronomy Prophet about 1000 years before Mad Muhammad was even born. To add to the laughter it was so very funny that Muhammad used the personification of the same Christians Angel Gabriel to proclaim himself to being that very Prophet that he believed Jesus to be. We have already seen that Angel Gabriel giving that same proclamation for Jesus hahaha but at least the Roman Christians do not claim the New Testament was writ by that Angel Gabriel. How laughable that Muslims claim the very words of the Koran came from that fabricated Angel Gabriel. Clearly, that Angel Gabriel could not read so well for the Koranic tales glorifying Jesus do not correspond with the New Testament stories. In addition, saying as a baby that Jesus could talk hahaha even Christians would laugh at that one. Was there any actual written witnesses. Of course not. Hearsay tales are not true according to religious and civil law. But then the Koran is established to be untrue by the Sura 4:82 anyway. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:29 PM One has to consider that as these religious matters are well known just why is it that the Jews and Christians have not pointed a finger at Islam and openly said Sura 4:82. What you believe is not true. Then they could have shown the many errors that exist in the Koran and in the many silly claims of Muhammad. That Thunder and lightening thingy still makes me laugh to this very day. Angels making bonfires hahaha pricking clouds to make rain. One would have thought the religious leaders of this world would have spoke up especially as Islam has become such a nuisance in todays world. After all, look how easy it is to establish the Koran did not come from God and that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud. The whole of Islam bites the Dust and with such ease. Now come on Muslims what is the matter? Does the truth devastate and crush you into defeat? Yet these are Islamic issues after all the Sura 4:82 challenge of the Koran is open to all Muslims and none Muslims and it is the Koran and the (cough) word of Muhammad challenging the worlds religious congregations. Therefore, it is a serious Islamic issue. Of course, as you have no legs to stand on then you clearly knew you would be defeated. It is then normal Islamic propaganda practice to try to misdirect people by using other conversations and avoid the issue. Too bad for all of you that I am not any ordinary man. I am that very specific Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews and that is why I am the challenger who is demanding an account from you. Remind yourselves that I have challenged the whole of Islam and not just a few and you can all see just how easily I can eat you all for breakfast with my God given Revelations. So go bring me all of your religious scholars so you can all bite the Dust together. Perhaps you think these matters will go away but you are mistaken. I am going to be publishing my own revelations and be certain that the Sura 4:82 of the Koran and the silly claims of the false prophet Muhammad are going to get a mention. It should be obvious to you that I am not like Salmon Rushdie and will defend all that I say in any public arena. It will be you Muslims who will be going into hiding, along with your Islamic leaders and religious scholars and your imams, as I demand this account from you. You are the ones who are powerless against my God given Revelations and it was Muslims who challenged me nay goaded me to challenge Islam in the first place. Therefore, you are in no position to complain and woes betide any of you if you do. The Sura 4:82 is a challenge that is open to all Muslims and none Muslims and as you have seen with your own eyes, I will only speak on the religion of Islam under Islamic law. Therefore, you are all stuffed, for that Islamic law states if you know something that is not true then you must be unafraid, stand up, and state it. The matter will then be discussed and whatever is found to be true will be accepted as being true and whatever is found to be false will be rejected as being false. That means I can and be sure I will convert every Muslims that I speak with and if they do not convert then they were not real Muslims in the first place. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:30 PM I have the whole of Islam by the short and curlies and it was you Muslims who challenged nay goaded me to challenge Islam. Well now, you can see a taste of my Power staring you all in the face. What is the worse for all of you is that I am no ordinary man. The law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards can establish it. I am a genuine Prophet who has a provable connection to the Living God. I am that long awaited Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. The law of Deuteronomy as I remind you all is a law brought down by Moses from the Living God. So then, that law is the actual word of the Living God. If you argue against me then you also will be arguing against the actual word of the Living God. Already you bite the Dust when I challenged Islam, the Koran, and the silly claims of Muhammad. Here is another word of the Living God. Deuteronomy Chapter 18 Verse 18: A Prophet I shall raise up in the MIDST of your Brothers, like you. And I shall indeed put my words in his mouth and he will certainly speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy Chapter 18 Verse 19: And it must occur that the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. I shall myself require an account from him. Starjade doth conclude. I am demanding that account and I already know what you have to say and that is not a lot for already as I spoke you began to bite that Dust. That is the price you pay for following false prophets and a false god a moon god hahaha. Yeah when my words are in publication, I shall be looking forwards to many more conversations with Muslims on that moon worshipping matter. Already I can foresee you Muslims digging those holes in the ground trying to bury your heads in the sand. However, hey if you want a flame war of which we all know up front that you cannot win then kick off a storm. In addition, if you want to make accusations of blasphemy against me. Then do make sure it is the Arabs who are descendants of Ishmael who are the ones making those accusations for then the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 is invoked officially. Do remember that according to the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards I am not guilty of any crime of Iniquity or Sin. So once again, whatever way you look at it your all stuffed. Hahaha imagine the moon worshippers of Islam trying to accuse a real Prophet from the living God of blasphemy. When Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 onwards law states that I am not guilty of any crime of iniquity or sin hahaha that is most funny. Especially as Moses brought down that law himself and it is the actual word of the Living God. Be sure I would like to be in that courtroom. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:30 PM In addition, do remember in the public eye that I was challenged by Muslims to challenge Islam, that is a matter still on record, and it was agreed all such conversations would be done under Islamic law. Seems like you moon worshippers have a problem trying to find a solution that can never be found, I am far too religiously superior for any of you to ever dare take me on. Those Islamic scholars who tried in the past soon bit the Dust for I am not a novice. The world media would just love those news bulletins especially with the problems of todays (cough) religious world. I am also showing everyone up front in the beginning just how powerless you are going to be if you ever dare to stand against me. If you still doubt then bring it on. However, be wary for it would not be the wise to cause my anger to blaze. Already I can destroy Islam, the Koran, and the silly claims of Mad Muhammad by a few simple words. Sura 4:82. Then what do you think you are going to do. ? Now go tell your Islamic leaders, your Imams, and your religious scholars and dare them to come online and face me for I am still demanding an account from the followers of Islam even though it is inevitable that you are going to bite the Dust. That fact is a point alone that is yet another Revelation. Hahahaha I am just one man, nay more than a man for I am that Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews. Still just one man who has challenged the whole of Islam and it was Islam that bit the Dust. Now that is truly a Revelation. Realize that you are all powerless against me and so get your Islamic leaders to publicly admit defeat and convert from Islam rejecting the Koran and those silly claims of Muhammad. That is what Islamic law states you must do. Otherwise, remember those blasphemy laws; for you are knowingly worshipping in Sin. You can be certain from my Judgments on that account that I have that power to stone you all to your deaths in the very apocalyptic earthquake rubble that I was once warning you all about in an attempt to save the lives of potentially billions. Strange isnt it how a path can change direction. ? The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:31 PM There is of course another fundamental error in the silly claims of Mad Muhammad. He bragged that he was the last prophet to come from God and any other prophet who comes along claiming that he came from god is a liar and he must be put to death. Tsk Tsk Of course then it was remembered that the Christians believed that Jesus was going to return and so Mad Muhammad then went back on his word and said oh yes Jesus will come along but not as gods prophet and that he would bow down to Islam. Yet Christians believe that Jesus is a Prophet from God as does Muhammad as seen also stated in the Koran and Mad Muhammad did say Jesus was going to come along after him also contradicting his own words trying to white wash over his embarrassing mistake in his statement about prophets from god coming along after him. . Of course, on all accounts Muhammad who clearly is an established liar and a fraud forgets that during the Time when the character Jesus was claimed to have lived the fabricated religion of Islam did not exist for that was of Muhammads invention. Although at that Time when Jesus is claimed to have lived it was known about the worshippers of the pagan moon god Hubal alilah at the Kabba. The worshippers of Sin. I have made it very clear that Jesus is also a fraud and Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law agrees with me. However, I would say that given the persona of Jesus there is just no way, would that character be seen giving worship to the Islamic moon god Hubal alilah and bowing down to Islam. Mind you Jesus was fiction and not an actual real live character. Furthermore, Muhammad did not realize that the character of Jesus had claimed he was the Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet and that is why they called Jesus the King of the Jews. That is the same Prophet that mad Muhammad had proclaimed himself as being. A completely new agenda regarding that specific long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet and his expected acts in the fulfillment of the living Gods prophecy would come into play upon his arrival that stands outright against the beliefs and claims of mad Muhammad. Muhammad did not appear to know what it was that the Jews were expecting that long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet to do when he arrived. There is a little matter of the gathering of the Jews and the Exodus and the building of the Third Temple to the Living God. These are things the Jews were waiting for that Deuteronomy Prophet to do. When we read what is written in history, Jesus and Muhammad did not make any attempt to do such acts or deeds nor did they prepare such apocalyptic plans nor could they for those Jews were not then scattered to the four corners of the globe. It was simply impossible for Jesus or Muhammad to fulfill the living Gods End of Times Prophecy. But then they were both frauds anyway as already seen by the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 and onwards, a little matter of two or three witnesses needed to establish their claims as being true. Deuteronomy law already does establish that Jesus and Muhammad are frauds and so this stupid brag by Muhammad is just his bloated ego spewking his propaganda and misleading the congregations with his egotistical directions. The Living God can send as many Prophets to this Planet as the living God wants and it is not the place of any Islamic grunt to make threats of death or plans even kill off the Living Gods Prophets. This makes Islam demonic in its nature as well as blasphemous for worshipping the moon on the belief that the moon is god. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 12:31 PM To make death threats against the living Gods true Prophet is a grave mistake not just for Muhammad but by that pathetic brag he has also placed all of his followers in a very grave position. I am already in Judgments of the followers of Islam and demanding an account from them. As can be seen here and in many other places around the world. You do not see them dare make accusations of Blasphemy against me. I make it very clear I can be established as being a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God and by Deuteronomy law. Yet they who would doubt me dare not make that threat of death against me. If they do, they know I will crucify them and the whole of Islam. As well, as see to it that they all become stoned to death in earthquake rubble. Unlike Muhammad, I do follow the living Gods view on blasphemy and I will exact those blasphemy laws on the blasphemous congregations. Stoning them to their deaths in earthquake rubble or destruction by other means is simple for me to do. I can stone entire continents to their death just by remaining silent. It will be grim when it does occur. Already as you see from the news that it is clear that the living Gods anger blazes upon the followers of Islam. And by the way, as a posthumous message to the long dead loony Mad Muhammad you may well be dead and rotting in your grave or in that pit of hell. However, as the followers of Islam are painfully aware a genuine Prophet from the living God has certainly appeared. Established to be genuine by Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 onwards. Laws brought down by Moses from the Living God are therefore that is the actual word of the living God. The word of the living God does establish that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. This fact also proves that you Muhammad once again are established as being a liar and a fraud whose word still stands against the actual word of the Living God. As these words are read I am very much alive and bringing fear into the religious congregations. The followers of Islam are already afraid of me and my God given Revelations and I have used Islamic law and the words of the Koran to cause your fabricated religion of Islam to bite the dust. Islam is the thing that has died when that Deuteronomy Prophet from the living God appeared. The whole of Islam and the Koran and the words and brags and silly claims of Muhammad have all bitten the Dust. Muhammad was not so clever to go making death threats against the living Gods Prophet. Islam is the only thing that has died. Put to death by me and a thing called the truth. You said you were the last Prophet to come from god yet I have outright proven you are a liar and a fraud and that you were the false prophet who worshipped in Sin and was presumptuous to think you could speak in Gods name. I convert Muslims and using Islamic law and the words of the golden calf the Koran I can cause them to reject your blasphemous words and presumptuous claims. This is something I find to be so easy when the lies you fed are such mere crumbs on my breakfast table. It wasnt much of a challenge. Now where are those Islamic scholars? Why do you not dare to face me? Ok I know why! but still I have destroyed the credibility of your idol the self appointed false prophet Mad Muhammad and the Golden Calf the Koran and I have caused Islam and its moon god to bite the dust. Have you nothing then that you want to say. Like Sorry. Admit your defeat or continue to be defeated. Reject the Koran and the words of Mad Muhammad as Islamic law demands after all it is clear Muhammad had flown way too far over the cuckoos nest and was presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - standvast - 06-11-2007 01:11 PM Quote:Have you nothing then that you want to say What possibly motivates these monologues, oh great prophet ?, what do you think you will accomplish wih them, o great religious scolar ? why should anyone give a shit what you think , wise one of beyond the white abyss? How the hell are you going to prove Mohammed a fraud, yet set yourself up as another obviously piss poor prophet, divinely inspired baking powder sniffer ? How long do you plan to continue these cronicles of ridiculoid ? peace' The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-11-2007 01:27 PM Quote:standvast you ask; What possibly motivates these monologues, oh great prophet ?, what do you think you will accomplish wih them, o great religious scolar ? Starjade says; Muslims care and so do those who are the enemies of Islam. Oh and God cares. I have Islam by the short and curlies and can convert the followers of Islam. And maybe I have other hidden agendas. Wait and see. Quote:standvast you ask; How the hell are you going to prove Mohammed a fraud, yet set yourself up as another obviously piss poor prophet, divinely inspired baking powder sniffer ? How long do you plan to continue these cronicles of ridiculoid ? peace' Starjade says; So what do you care? Was it your business? I am the most famous and most powerful prophet who ever lived. In my hands is that decision of if a Planet lives or dies. Judgement day has already passed and gone. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - standvast - 06-11-2007 01:54 PM Quote:Was it your business? Being a moderator here, [semi-public free speech forum] i'm making it my bizz. Quote:I am the most famous and most powerful prophet who ever lived. Yeah you are, but that's only because the others really really sucked at it, and where not even close to funny like you. :bored: In the opinion of mine and others you are a delusional self agrandizing fool. Since there must be plenty fora around in which you can persue your escapade and have actual Muslims respond to you, why don't you go bother those ? judging by the live responses you got here in your 10 page revelation , maybe you should move on, And in case you choose not to, .. refrain from stating things as rigorous certainties by use of the verb "to be' which only make your mind look static , and your convictions evenmore the silly. [imho the substance of your answers to my questions [which i meant to be serious] is quite telling] peace' The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Rosebery - 06-11-2007 11:30 PM Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:@ Starjade Are you being obtuse or what? My conclusion, 7 days later, is you most certainly DO need help. Here's a clue: Go Google Napolean XIV - you'll be looking for something from 1966. Cheers The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - seven - 06-12-2007 07:33 AM I can end all of this buy removing his website. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-12-2007 10:47 AM Quote:Quote:Come on then Muslims what are you so afraid of we all know you like to brag the brag for Islam so here you have a golden opertunity to get things off your chest and as the Sura 4:82 stated the matter will then be discussed. So what are you all so afraid of ?Don't wait for them, approach them with your answers ?? :D Well I went to that web site and Sura 4:82 'd their Islamic asses and got banned on the first day. Told you so. I am usually very picky of what Islamic web sites I write on. I didnt like the format of that web site anyways but the fact is no Muslim is in any position to debate these matters for they cannot argue against the truth and the Sura 4:82 says it all. The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 06-12-2007 11:04 AM Quote:Was it your business? Quote:Standvast you said; Being a moderator here, [semi-public free speech forum] i'm making it my bizz. Starjade says; Ah moderators the blight of free speech. Well I am a very good writer who raises a lot of interest in religion which is what was being discussed. But be certain I write on many forums and this one isnt so significant. Especially if people like you poke your nose into the debate offering nothing but verbal spewk. Be certain my conversations continue on many forums and so I am never short of conversations. People can easily find me on the Internet and find I do write on other forums where they allow total freedom of speech. Quote:I am the most famous and most powerful prophet who ever lived. Quote:Standvast you said; Yeah you are, but that's only because the others really really sucked at it and where not even close to funny like you. Starjade says; I know many Muslims and Christians who are not laughing. Quote:Standvast you said; In the opinion of mine and others you are a delusional self agrandizing fool. Starjade says; And since when has your opinion counted for anything other than diddly squat.? Your writing babble did not raise as much views or interest as mine has. Regarding religion you truly are a novice. Quote:Standvast you said; Since there must be plenty fora around in which you can persue your escapade and have actual Muslims respond to you, why don't you go bother those ?judging by the live responses you got here in your 10 page revelation , maybe you should move on,Starjade says; On other forums my writings continue for over 50 pages with thousands of views and I never planned on staying here especially with plonkers like you blabbering on the pages trying to get your self noticed. And I am having conversations elsewhere. I am never short of religious debates. However, here very few have religious knowledge and that is why the conversations are so short. Quote:Standvast you said; And in case you choose not to, .. refrain from stating things as rigorous certainties by use of the verb "to be' which only make your mind look static , and your convictions evenmore the silly.Starjade says; You do not dictate to me. I write what I want and do not give a toss whether you like it or not. Since when have you been such an Islamic butt sucker then Quote:Standvast you said; [imho the substance of your answers to my questions [which i meant to be serious] is quite telling] peace' Starjade says; Stop babbling and get offline. You must be a Christian for I heard he was in need of another Jackass. Quote:Standvast you said; I can end all of this buy removing his website. Starjade says; Now you flatter yourself jackass clearly you feel intimidated. By the way that End of Times web site is not mine it belongs to the American Philosopher Liberty girl who began collecting my writings years ago and created the web site for her own personal views. I am trained as a web page designer and so she did give me links to add some stuff but it all belongs to her. It has had over one and a half million visitors since it went up. No wonder the green eyed god of penis envy has reared its ugly head in you. We can all see how popular I am. Whiles you are not. And if I am banned from this web site who cares. They just have to tap in Starjade and i can be found writing some place else. Then this website will fade with insigificance once again. Now piss off as I am busy. |