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Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - ccarota - 05-27-2007 10:11 PM
Nice... daywatch
Haven't seen it yet, I'm waiting to see the theatrical version with subtitles like the ones in nightwatch. June 1st... - Chris
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - Guest - 05-28-2007 03:18 AM
Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - LeveL - 05-28-2007 03:46 AM
Christianity is a mind control technique that works really well.
Its not even an original idea either, it came from far older things like Paganism
and Egyptian religions. It was Christians 500 years ago who went around killing
people because they refused to believe in Christianity. So the Christianity was
imposed on people, be a Christian or die... you don't hear many Christians
talking about this, f**king hypocrites. It is because of Christianity that we now
don't even HAVE Paganism or any of the other INTERESTING religions.
Christianity tells you all the power is with god, thats bullshit, all the power is with
YOU, YOU ARE THE GOD, unless you're a Christian, then you're just giving it up.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - Guest - 05-28-2007 04:37 AM
Just who do you propose is controlling my mind?
The pope?
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - LeveL - 05-28-2007 04:41 AM
Quote:Just who do you propose is controlling my mind?
The pope?
No but I bet one of his minions (any priest/vicar/clergyman) has at least tried to?
Meaning at some point in your life you probably went to church? I went loads of
time with school when I was a kid, it was boring as hell.
I have a church on the same street where I live and went to a "Catholic" primary
school between 4 and 11 years old, hmmmm, a "Catholic" school, what the fuck is
THAT about? :huh:I don't see many primary schools for satanism, or buddhism,
or any other religion.
I was saying "prayers" there when I was 4 fucking years old! Thats the mind control,
it just didn't work on me and didn't work on you either Ctrl, what I am saying is, they
do TRY to control everyones mind, theres a church in every town FFS.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - Zoomie38 - 05-28-2007 10:08 AM
Quote:Quote:Just who do you propose is controlling my mind?
The pope?
No but I bet one of his minions (any priest/vicar/clergyman) has at least tried to?
Meaning at some point in your life you probably went to church? I went loads of
time with school when I was a kid, it was boring as hell.
I have a church on the same street where I live and went to a "Catholic" primary
school between 4 and 11 years old, hmmmm, a "Catholic" school, what the fuck is
THAT about? :huh:I don't see many primary schools for satanism, or buddhism,
or any other religion.
I was saying "prayers" there when I was 4 fucking years old! Thats the mind control,
it just didn't work on me and didn't work on you either Ctrl, what I am saying is, they
do TRY to control everyones mind, theres a church in every town FFS.
The more I study the Roman Catholic church I have found that in a way it is a system of control. It was the Protestant reformation that created the notion of religious freedom. If you read any of the Council of Trent or read the piece titled the Black Pope you will find that they are still trying to regain the control lost during the reformation.
The first rule of control is you have to convince the one that you wish to control that you a worthy and dominate to him.
An example of this is found in the some of the Canons:
"If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema." (Canon 14).
CANON 9: "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."
CANON 12: "If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified ... let him be accursed"
Canon 33: "If any one saith, that, by the Catholic doctrine touching Justification, by this holy Synod inset forth in this present decree, the glory of God, or the merits of our Lord Jesus Christ are in any way derogated from, and not rather that the truth of our faith, and the glory in fine of God and of Jesus Christ are rendered (more) illustrious; let him be anathema.
These are words of Men who wish to control the masses by creating the fictitious belief that grace is recieved through works. If you follow the rules and partake in the sacrements then you are granted salvation. The Protestant Reformation ended this and with Luther,Calvin, Wesley, and Knox the true Christiananity returned to the fore front. The following are a couple verses that support the findiings:
"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law," (Rom. 3:28).
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God."( Eph. 2:8)
"nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified." ( Gal. 2:16)
These are just a few. There are many more. Protestants believe in salvation through Faith and Grace. Catholics believe salvation through works.
We controlled by the laws of a governing authority. In the Catholic Church the Pope is at the top of the Governing authority. Keep in mind that I in know way believe that all Catholics buy into this doctrine of works but many of them do and many of them have turned on Christianity for that reason. On the same note Many Protestants have a real twisted Holier than thou attitude toward so-called unbelievers. This totally is not found in the New testament. It is Gods job to Judge not ours. Hate is evil. It is in place to produce division among the masses. Therefore no unified front can exist. I would glsdly stand side by side with a pagan, jew, catholic, muslim, etc. to fight for freedom. It is my Job as a person on this earth and a Christian.
By the way I voted for Bush because I was brainwashed by television. I am sure I f I had ask God for guidance he would said that if my vote actually made a difference then voting wouild be illegal.
Peace
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - rawgoatsmilk - 05-30-2007 02:27 AM
Here is my take on the whole "God" thing. I believe in the God of the Bible, though I find Christianity a bit ... suspect.
I believe the Hebrew God is the bacteria in our gut.
To quote from an email I never sent:
Quote:I've heard mention of the hollow earth, but I havent heard many researchers mention the hollow human. Of course, it's basic human anatomy that our digestive tract runs straight through us, so that we are indeed hollow. Another basic fact of our anatomy/physiology is that we have trillions of bacteria that live inside our digestive tract; more bacteria than we have cells in our body, by a factor of about 10.
Now, there's plenty of mention in the Bible of "The Living God", and "The God who Lives on the Inside of Us". There is of course mention the fact that we are "the temple of God", and his "spirit lives within us". Now I believe that this Living God of the Hebrews (Old Testament) is indeed the bacteria in our gut! As a further basis for my argument, the Hebrew God is often called "The Father". And, well, the bacteria in our gut, at least from a biological standpoint, are our "ancestral" father. I mean, at some point in our biological history, one cell came together with others to form multicellular beings, of which we are a part.
There is also mention in the bible of the Hebrew God being "Our great Defender/Protector." Now, the bacteria in our gut are indeed the number one line of defense for our immune system (most of which is centered in our gut). The Bible also mentions that we are "totally dependent" on God for everything -- I mean, the Bible really emphasizes this dependence. And with regard to the bacteria in our gut, it is also true, that if it were not for them, we would not long survive.
Also, our intestines, if you think about it, are where we make our most intimate contact with the outside world, because only a single layer of cells separates "outside of our body" (the digestive lumen) and "inside our body".
I'm sure I could find more 'clues' in the bible to support my thesis of God as bacteria. (For example, bacteria are truly "all around us", as the Hebrew God supposedly is)
Now, the real "origin" of my idea that the Hebrew God is the bacteria in our gut came from my experiences with one of those staples of the health supplement industry: the probiotic (the beneficial bacteria in our gut). It was after a fast/colon cleanse that I started a rather powerful probiotic and began to get this "sense" of something living inside of me. I also felt much more "religious" when I was taking said probiotic. I also felt much more in touch with nature, because I had restored my own inner ecology (something I believe most of us are badly in need of). It didn't take long before I was quite convinced that God, at least, the Hebrew God, was the bacteria in our gut.
Now, I've heard Jordan Maxwell proclaim that all religion is founded in the mother of all religions: Astro-Theology. I believe that he's right, BUT, there may be an exception when it comes to those little creatures that live inside of us, and upon whom we are totally dependent for our survival. To tell you the truth, I believe I have stumbled upon the true "nature" of God (at least the Hebrew God), i.e. the bacteria in our gut.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - Internet Junkie - 06-02-2007 12:02 PM
Quote:I don't accept your appology, because the addendum makes you even more of an ignorant cunt.
But its ok, cause I knew thats what you meant anyways.
:grin:
Is it really necessary to call me that ?
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - jack - 06-02-2007 07:28 PM
Why is anyone listening to a kid that can't even earn enough credits to graduate high school.
Too many children on this forum,
it's a shame that most of the adults got tired of the kidddies and left quite awhile ago.
You may think you know it all at 15-19, but give it some time and you'll see that even your parents are smarter than you think !
SHEEP OF A DIFFERENT COLOR ARE STILL SHEEP.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - hardboiled11 - 06-05-2007 11:16 AM
Quote:Quote:I don't accept your appology, because the addendum makes you even more of an ignorant cunt.
But its ok, cause I knew thats what you meant anyways.
:grin:
Is it really necessary to call me that ?
I call you whatever I like you hoe.
Quote:Why is anyone listening to a kid that can't even earn enough credits to graduate high school.Who would listen to you, with the mr big ego!
Too many children on this forum,
it's a shame that most of the adults got tired of the kidddies and left quite awhile ago.
You may think you know it all at 15-19, but give it some time and you'll see that even your parents are smarter than you think !
SHEEP OF A DIFFERENT COLOR ARE STILL SHEEP.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - jack - 06-06-2007 06:45 AM
While I've never thought of myself as "mr big ego", I like the sound of it. :cool:
Ok, I apologize, that was totally uncalled for. I have no doubt that your smart enough to graduate high school
I have become frustrated at the state of this forum.
It used to be better at informing people of NWO, OWG, and the lose of our personal freedoms to the new, up and coming global dicKtators.
Now, it has become more of a bed for socialism and islam. If it's against bush, capitalism, conservatives or the war it's seen as good by many here on the new forum.
This is a very naive way of viewing people, groups and events. Like joining up with the Hatfields just because you don't like the McCoys.
The site has lost many good older members and gained almost entirely teenagers. While well meaning, the youth lack the experience to interpret their own indoctrination and instead see it as critical thought. (studies show that the brain is still developing until approx age 25 and beyond) You really will awake one day in the future and think "man, what wtf was I thinking back then, I thought I knew it all, yet I knew very little"
I was merely venting my frustrations, and didn't mean anything personal by it.
Sorry
Carry on with the - people who believe in Jesus are stupid, conversation.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - Cnb - 06-07-2007 01:41 AM
Quote:LETS DISCUSS SOME REAL SHIT HERE PEOPLE.By the written prophecy, lots of people will be eaten by "the birds flying in midair". There are many reasons behind everyone's actions, including those of our leaders and head of states. Everyone is free to act as they will.
Know Jesus, Know Peace.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - Paracat - 06-07-2007 03:14 PM
Quote:Christianity is a mind control technique that works really well.
Its not even an original idea either, it came from far older things like Paganism
and Egyptian religions. It was Christians 500 years ago who went around killing
people because they refused to believe in Christianity. So the Christianity was
imposed on people, be a Christian or die... you don't hear many Christians
talking about this, f**king hypocrites. It is because of Christianity that we now
don't even HAVE Paganism or any of the other INTERESTING religions.
Christianity tells you all the power is with god, thats bullshit, all the power is with
YOU, YOU ARE THE GOD, unless you're a Christian, then you're just giving it up.
Here's your change.
I think you are talking about the spanish inquisition when your talking about 500 years ago.
You can guess why the priests from that time didn't allow people to read the bible. Simply becouse that would make them powerless. It gave them some creative freedom, making it total bullshit and making people believe killing and torture is the way of getting rid of pagans and whatnot.This had nothing to do with our religion, just with THOSE particulair powerhungry freaks.
You are mistaking in the thought that paganism doesnt exist anymore. Open you fucking eye's. Witchcraft is being promoted as hell, just look at Harry Potter and television series like Sabrina,Winx and many many more. Magic is told to be "cool" and people are starting to believe it (my ex was a serious wicca).
Christianity teaches , not that God does everything, but that we are responsible for all our acts. This is what is ment by "God created man in his own image". This doesnt mean God has arms and legs, but with having the ability to create and make choices.
And about the whole Jesus thing... Tell me whats bothering you about it, and I'll rebuttal
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - triplesix - 06-09-2007 05:30 AM
I'll tell you one thing that pisses me off about Jesus, it's the Passion. (This is directly from the forum discussion about God's disdain for Rudy). I get so pissed over all this disinformation in the Passion. The story goes Pontius Pilate was not "personally opposed to [the Passion] but allowed it to happen." Which is utter bullshit.
Pilate ruled the Roman province Judaea for just over ten years between 26 and 37 CE. Judaea was what the very organized Roman's dubbed a "third-class province." These were provinces not important for economic or political expansion and tended to have "problematic" indigenous populations. The province was overshadowed massively by the neighbouring and very powerful Syrian province which commanded three legions. Pilate was an equestrian soldier, an essentially middle rank, and commanded only one auxillary unit. Judaea had an amalgamous population of Jews, Samaritans and general pagans. These people were confined within the province's small 70 x 160 km borders. The province had essentially two capitols, Jerusalem, significant to the Jews and Caesarea, full of soldiers and Roman statesmen and citizens. Basically Pilate had just two jobs in his crappy province: Maintain order and collect taxes.
My point in all this is that Pontius Pilate, a low-level soldier/governor, is often recorded in history as an anti-semite. One who kept the regional religious leaders in office so long as they behaved and who executed so many people in his small province he was recalled to Rome to explain himself. Also the likelihood that Jesus was executed in a small and ceremonial manner while the other common criminal was released makes no historical sense. The Syrian governor Quintilus Varus, in 4 CE, had 2,000 Jews crucified for protesting his policies. In 66 CE, the Judeaen governor Gessius Florus crucified 3,600 Jews of all ages and genders calling them "enemies of Rome." Upon the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE, Roman general and later Emporer Titus ordered 500 Jews crucified and hung from the city walls per day.
Ignoring the fact that preceding and following Jesus' "special" execution the Romans were prolific in mass and indiscriminate executions the Passion violates many of the Jew's own codified laws, such as: no trials to be held at night or on the eve or day of a festival like Passover, unanimous agreement by witnesses, protection against self-incrimination, no charge of blasphemy except for pronouncing the divine name, and stoning rather than crucifixion as a punishment in the event of a conviction.
My whole point is the Passion is a fake story created by early Christians, who were all but Jews themselves, to pacify the occupying Romans, casting the blame on Jews (and essentially themselves) for martyring Jesus instead of on the Romans, to avoid more mass executions and the suppression of their religion.
The Ethiopian Christian Church has even canonized Pilate for fuck's sake, some merciless murdering psychopath. Religion is so retarded it's hardly worth expending the energy arguing about it. I don't want to hear any shit from the Bible about why I'm wrong, unless you're quoting a first century original, even then, it's hardly a source. If you want to cling to your death and ressurrection mythology, that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that Jesus, in our modern understanding of his life and as it is written in the Bible, is one of the biggest hoaxes of all time.
Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever. - SerialExpLain - 06-09-2007 05:42 AM
Ok, so why does Jesus bother so many people, hmmm? If He is not real, just don't think about Him if you don't want to.