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What If We Are Crashing The System? - ccarota - 09-20-2007 05:21 PM
This thread was originally written by Osgorth, one ConCen's original members, last year. It relates directly to Strawman's comments in todays Con-Centricity concerning the "conspiracy" of the Neocons, PNAC and Zionism, and his questions about Jesse's new found "Utopian" perspective, as well as my rant yesterday, and stanteau's comments here. I'd like to pick up the discussion where we left off, as it relates directly to the here and now of ConCen...
What If We Are Crashing The System?
Osgorth 28-June-2006 09:53
Chris Carota 28-June-2006 16:16
Quote:Great post Osgorth, I've definitely thought about this before... When you observe how fascists warmongers and corrupt government scams are allowed and seemingly encourages by the globalists, how exceedingly sloppy and deliberate some of the recent black ops have become, it seems like they are trying to manipulate people into a limited perspective conspiratorial view of history, perhaps to accelerate the collapse as you suggest. You are definitely on to it when you say that we are the tools being used to bring this about.
Episteme 29-June-2006 16:20
What If We Are Crashing The System? - resonate - 09-20-2007 09:24 PM
Yes!... I've been biting my tongue too, that's pretty much what I think.
If you've noticed, I don't post much on what I know of conspiracy theories, that is the reason. But, knowing these things are important in understanding the world, learning how to think, learning what YOU actually think and feel. These efforts by all of us are never wasted. Though, I think we have to be careful not to divide ourselves, that is all a new world artificial industrial slave order needs to come into being.
Getting hung up, or led by words is a difficult trap. We should all strive to know what we need and want deep down. These Labels we throw around are not the totality of the person or group. They are all just like us deep down, they are not "evil" or "psychopaths"... they are being afflicted by mental conditioning and detatchment from nature... just like all of us are.
"Fighting them" won't work. The system is weakening, that means the people will need to be stronger. People need to understand themselves first, and then they can begin to help each other be more independant from it's grip's... but first, you have to really want to, only then can you enable yourself to accept the responsibility that comes with it.
What If We Are Crashing The System? - Shinobi - 09-20-2007 09:44 PM
Thanks Chris. What happened to Osgorth btw ?
I know 'no' is somewhere out there :-)
What If We Are Crashing The System? - faust - 09-20-2007 09:51 PM
Quote:"Fighting them" won't work. The system is weakening, that means the people will need to be stronger. People need to understand themselves first, and then they can begin to help each other be more independant from it's grip's... but first, you have to really want to, only then can you enable yourself to accept the responsibility that comes with it.
We've never fought them to begin with, so how would we know if fighting them wont work? The system is strong, yet it is us who are weakening. We bicker like pubescent kids with over inflated egos, no wonder we cant move on, let alone fight
Agreed with the rest of your post
@Madizms, Osgorth is on sabbatical :biggrin:
What If We Are Crashing The System? - Shinobi - 09-20-2007 10:12 PM
You mean to tell me he's levitated to a church or something lol
Tell me, has he gone all jewish then ?
What If We Are Crashing The System? - 009mj12 - 09-20-2007 10:26 PM
Multi-decade, domestic grand theater, preemptive proactive operations.
What If We Are Crashing The System? - ephilution - 09-20-2007 10:29 PM
I've been thinking the same thing ever since I heard ole Donnie Rumsfeld foul up with his notorious slip of the tongue when he publicly announced that Flight 93 was shot down over Pennsylvania instead of having been forced to crash down by valiant passengers. If Flight 93 would have found its way to the White House then FEMA would've likely taken over the show called US Inc. and Martial Law would have become a reality. I suspect it was not accidental but that he 'misspoke' on purpose to stir the populace pot and force people that are capable of waking up to do just that.
I also must have mentioned it here on the boards a while back that the growing truth movement can be interpreted as the anti-thesis to mounting government's corruption (thesis) and if the former is under control of the same folks who command the thesis (by infiltration or from the get-go) then guess what? We again have a Hegelian Dialectical dish cooking on our stove where the synthesis may very well the police state brought about to full fruition and where human rights, of those who will remain standing, will have been sacrificed and traded in for 'security'.
What If We Are Crashing The System? - 009mj12 - 09-20-2007 10:36 PM
Could this be an ACTUAL counter-psychological operations theory thread(whatever that means to you).
I hope so!!!
What If We Are Crashing The System? - stanteau - 09-20-2007 11:11 PM
I reached the same conclusion a little while ago, there HAD to be a reason to fund Alex Jones and LC and blah blah blah and I DON'T think it's *only* the Jews, so I definitely think it's much much larger than that, and yeah, that's the plan, pure chaos.
I posted a while ago that if "we" did expose "them", even for just 9/11, it would send the world into pure anarchy, every country rebelling against it's governments, all currencies falling at record speed, and people who try to sound noble will say "yeah! Just like the dark ages, ya know, like in Fight Club," now I personally think man's achievements are amazing and I think all the awful shit this society has made could easily be used for good, so I would LOVE to see a peaceful ending to it all and a renouncement of all currency in favor of, ya know, actual charity which could lead to virtue for the individual and salvation for the Earth.
What If We Are Crashing The System? - SerialExpLain - 09-20-2007 11:25 PM
I think all one has to do is look to whose system is being smashed to bits. Well, we have the middle east, not good there. USA, not good. Russia, not too good. Indonesia, not good. China, not very good. Japan, not good. Australia, not good. Most of Africa, definitely not good. South America, not good.
Meanwhile, where is the power consolidating - Europe predominantly.
So, everyone knows that is the where high finance is.
I think the secret of the secret societies is that their secrets would ultimately be revealed. If they were dark intentioned secret societies then ultimately their NWO is essentially No-World -- Order, yeah... order in the sense that they are controlling it.
If they wanted peace and prosperity that would be what the world would be experiencing, BUT THEY DON'T.
And because of that fact that they don't it is easy to extrapolate from there that depopulation and sacrifice might mean something very esoteric to them.
Again, I believe sustainability is a lie that is being put forth.
Perhaps the void or Sirius or anywhere else but hell is all they hope for. What if all the hype on a possible alternative was simply funded by some very corrupted people who feared a deserved retribution?
So any alternative, promissing anything other than that was funded to the hilt until money buys an artificial reality. A literal stairway to a purchased "beyond" to their liking. But in the meantime, they just can't stop their atrocities because that is what corruption of power does.
So, essentially they put forth a lot of bull shit, but they can because they can afford to with all the riches of the world.
Supreme arrogance to think money can buy it all and power can change whatever they want. The simple fact is they did not create themselves, perhaps they run from that to a myriad of delusions.
What If We Are Crashing The System? - 009mj12 - 09-21-2007 12:11 AM
I suspect at times that TPTB underestimated just how, and how long the complicity of the people of the western world would take this. Are their eugenics programs inter-fearing with what they thought for sure would erupt into a continental wide riots, general strikes etc which would have been the perfect stage for the economic blow out.
Lets take a look at the two provocative people that appeared on the forum in the last couple days: Troy W. Virginia and adaptusaaf.
I do not believe Troy is just some moron, and I don't think AJ thinks so either(which makes him suspect, maybe, but I still listen, notta hater). Troy has spent TOO MUCH time, on to many programs, networks, forums etc(not to mention on hold) for any person that is totally rejecting an ideology. His actions do not match his profile.
As to adaptusaaf. I don't have to tell you what the repercussions of a 17 year old connected with this forum, who ends up doing some of the things he says he fantasizes about. It would be much much worse than what he intimates here. His dialectic cadence IMO is contradicting.
It's probably just my issues of self importance but I think that these two are here now because of trigger words and talk of flipping CENTCOM operations back on the establishment as well as organized private intel operations. B4 you dissmiss do a search on how many times centcom has been spoken of on this forum or talk of news manipulation for our own means. I'm sure a few of you are way ahead of me on this... I hope
What If We Are Crashing The System? - SerialExpLain - 09-21-2007 12:21 AM
Quote:Are their eugenics programs inter-fearing with what they thought for sure would erupt into a continental wide riots, general strikes etc which would have been the perfect stage for the economic blow out.
Of course that is the case. That and that everyone IS isolated and controlled. I don't know where you live but those GWEN-cell phone towers get closer and closer...What? Soon you wake up in the morning and find one on every street. Why? If someone turned the HAARP off, maybe the apathy would immediately leave. There certainly was no apathy during the Viet Nam era. Pre-computer communications into portals to who knows where or why.
DARPA = Total Information Awarness. Total = All of it. Total information = includes every little piece of everything everybody is saying + Awareness. So what? They are aware and do not care? They are aware and compile lists? They are trying to modify behaviors? They are trying to desensitize?
What are they doing with their TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS? A venue for sadistic mockery?
I really don't think it is because THEY are learning. They seem to have all their plans well in order.
What If We Are Crashing The System? - MrBS - 09-21-2007 12:40 AM
Let's smash the system anyway.
If I smash it and found out it was all a set-up, I still will be happy I smashed the fucking thing:D
What If We Are Crashing The System? - deathstickboy - 09-21-2007 12:41 AM
Quote:You mean to tell me he's levitated to a church or something lol
From what I understand, he watched "The Secret" and took it very seriously. :ouch:
What If We Are Crashing The System? - deathstickboy - 09-21-2007 12:42 AM
Quote:Let's smash the system anyway.