07-13-2012, 09:36 PM
07-13-2012, 10:28 PM
I cannot believe that I wasted 16 minutes of my time on this video. I have news for you, seeing as you like to post this sort of material constantly... Mexicans are NOT native, their bloodline comes from Spain, which is Europe. Latin America and South America is inhabited by Europeans, and the native population is very low. Unless you check your ancestry and can prove you are native, then you are a European too. The only difference is that the set of Europeans in Latin and South America are darker skinned than us "white" Europeans. Again, Mexicans are NOT native people.
The land was stolen, that is undisputed. However, that is how this world works: you take land and resources. Is it right? No. More news: natives in the Americas did the same. They warred, stole each other's land and resources, captures, enslaved, raped, tortured, oppressed. It happens. Again, is it right? No. Is it just the Europeans? No. Ever study the Aztecs? They would capture people, other natives, and enslave them until they could be sacrificed to the sun god. Apparently "white people" are not the only group to oppress.
Also, it is not just "your" history (assuming you may actually be a native and not just a European Mexican) that is oppressed. They oppress everyone's history, including the white European history. Every history taught in the schools is a lie, not just "your" history. Even the culture and history of us "white Europeans" is oppressed heavily, especially in the South. It is not just you and "your" history.
And also, feel free to leave. Go to South America, go to Latin America, there is a lot of land that no one really has control over. Set up your own colony, express your own culture, do what you want to do. Don't cry and say "the white man took my stuff" though. It could have been anyone, really. If someone takes something that belongs to you, take it back. Even if all that was said in this video, as well as your other posts, was true, what do you think the solution is?
The land was stolen, that is undisputed. However, that is how this world works: you take land and resources. Is it right? No. More news: natives in the Americas did the same. They warred, stole each other's land and resources, captures, enslaved, raped, tortured, oppressed. It happens. Again, is it right? No. Is it just the Europeans? No. Ever study the Aztecs? They would capture people, other natives, and enslave them until they could be sacrificed to the sun god. Apparently "white people" are not the only group to oppress.
Also, it is not just "your" history (assuming you may actually be a native and not just a European Mexican) that is oppressed. They oppress everyone's history, including the white European history. Every history taught in the schools is a lie, not just "your" history. Even the culture and history of us "white Europeans" is oppressed heavily, especially in the South. It is not just you and "your" history.
And also, feel free to leave. Go to South America, go to Latin America, there is a lot of land that no one really has control over. Set up your own colony, express your own culture, do what you want to do. Don't cry and say "the white man took my stuff" though. It could have been anyone, really. If someone takes something that belongs to you, take it back. Even if all that was said in this video, as well as your other posts, was true, what do you think the solution is?
07-14-2012, 12:36 AM
(07-13-2012 10:28 PM)Anarchist Wrote: [ -> ]I cannot believe that I wasted 16 minutes of my time on this video. I have news for you, seeing as you like to post this sort of material constantly... Mexicans are NOT native, their bloodline comes from Spain, which is Europe. Latin America and South America is inhabited by Europeans, and the native population is very low. Unless you check your ancestry and can prove you are native, then you are a European too. The only difference is that the set of Europeans in Latin and South America are darker skinned than us "white" Europeans. Again, Mexicans are NOT native people.
The land was stolen, that is undisputed. However, that is how this world works: you take land and resources. Is it right? No. More news: natives in the Americas did the same. They warred, stole each other's land and resources, captures, enslaved, raped, tortured, oppressed. It happens. Again, is it right? No. Is it just the Europeans? No. Ever study the Aztecs? They would capture people, other natives, and enslave them until they could be sacrificed to the sun god. Apparently "white people" are not the only group to oppress.
Also, it is not just "your" history (assuming you may actually be a native and not just a European Mexican) that is oppressed. They oppress everyone's history, including the white European history. Every history taught in the schools is a lie, not just "your" history. Even the culture and history of us "white Europeans" is oppressed heavily, especially in the South. It is not just you and "your" history.
And also, feel free to leave. Go to South America, go to Latin America, there is a lot of land that no one really has control over. Set up your own colony, express your own culture, do what you want to do. Don't cry and say "the white man took my stuff" though. It could have been anyone, really. If someone takes something that belongs to you, take it back. Even if all that was said in this video, as well as your other posts, was true, what do you think the solution is?
The solution was presented on the video. By the way, what are your sources on Aztec Human Sacrifice? And there is no such thing as European Mexican, if Mexicans were Europeans, than they would be free to travel up and down the north and south continent, without a question. And no, European history is not omitted in Mexico or central and in the South Americas Continent, in fact it is praised above any Native History. But it would interesting to know what your sources are for Human Aztec Sacrifice, torture, and taking of each others territories because I have a different version since I hold a very extensive library on Native History.
07-14-2012, 01:41 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec#Human_sacrifice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacr...ec_culture
http://ca-americas.wikispaces.com/Aztec
Just a few links, not hard to look at the history to see the sacrifices. Or, perhaps it is all made up, I am open to that. If you have an extensive amount of literature, please provide evidence against sacrifices done by Aztecs and other groups. Such a sacrifice would look somewhat like this scene from Mel Gibson's Apocalypto:
On the solution, I want what you think should be done, not what a video says, if you do not mind.
And as far as conquest, here are a few links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_co...e_Americas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_co..._of_Mexico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_people#Ethnicity
We know the atrocities committed on the natives. After the so-called "discovery" of the Americas, a race was on to colonise. Diseases were brought over, food sources exterminated (buffalo, for one),, and all the rest. Afterwards, in the Mexico region and elsewhere in South and Latin America, the natives that survived were enslaved. Africans were brought over, but Spaniards were encouraged to go to Central and South America. The reduced native population mixed with Spaniards and Africans. According to the third link above, in 1921, the ethnicity was 59% native-white, with only 29% pure native. It also states:
While it is easier for Americans to travel, I would say it has more to do with the fact that the USA is considered "first world" and has more money. One could wonder if Mexico, or any other Hispanic country had vast wealth, if they could have freedom to travel. No idea. If one looks at China, though, as they get more wealth, the population is gaining more and more travel freedom, despite the oppressive government. They may not be natives to the Americas, but they are not European either. Japan has a lot of travel as well, and they are Asian. So based off observation, feel free to correct me, but it seems the more wealthy a country is, the easier it is to travel.
I guess the ball is in your court, now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacr...ec_culture
http://ca-americas.wikispaces.com/Aztec
Just a few links, not hard to look at the history to see the sacrifices. Or, perhaps it is all made up, I am open to that. If you have an extensive amount of literature, please provide evidence against sacrifices done by Aztecs and other groups. Such a sacrifice would look somewhat like this scene from Mel Gibson's Apocalypto:
On the solution, I want what you think should be done, not what a video says, if you do not mind.
And as far as conquest, here are a few links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_co...e_Americas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_co..._of_Mexico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_people#Ethnicity
We know the atrocities committed on the natives. After the so-called "discovery" of the Americas, a race was on to colonise. Diseases were brought over, food sources exterminated (buffalo, for one),, and all the rest. Afterwards, in the Mexico region and elsewhere in South and Latin America, the natives that survived were enslaved. Africans were brought over, but Spaniards were encouraged to go to Central and South America. The reduced native population mixed with Spaniards and Africans. According to the third link above, in 1921, the ethnicity was 59% native-white, with only 29% pure native. It also states:
Quote:According to a paper presented by the American Society of Human Genetics Mexicans were found to be 58.96% European, 36.05% "Asian" (Amerindian), and 5.03% African. Sonora shows the highest European contribution (70.63%) and Guerrero the lowest (51.98%). In Guerrero one also observes the highest Asian contribution (37.17%). African contribution ranges from 2.8% in Sonora to 11.13% in Veracruz. 80% of the Mexican population was classed as mestizo (Amerindian-Spanish).[30]The population of Mexico is mixed, and quite a bit, as I said before, is European. Some of us gringos have "Indian" blood in us, so are we technically native? At what percent would "indigenous" be considered? I doubt my >1% Cherokee will get me a check from the gov for being "Indian".
While it is easier for Americans to travel, I would say it has more to do with the fact that the USA is considered "first world" and has more money. One could wonder if Mexico, or any other Hispanic country had vast wealth, if they could have freedom to travel. No idea. If one looks at China, though, as they get more wealth, the population is gaining more and more travel freedom, despite the oppressive government. They may not be natives to the Americas, but they are not European either. Japan has a lot of travel as well, and they are Asian. So based off observation, feel free to correct me, but it seems the more wealthy a country is, the easier it is to travel.
I guess the ball is in your court, now.
07-14-2012, 07:56 AM
Apocalypto? You got to be joking hahaha... all of these sources are flawed and written by one perspective. There is the other perspective, the one that never gets told, The Indigenous Side Story.. what you are doing is just repeating the old public school lies... The savage always gets to write the history while the perspectives of the oppressed are scapegoated. In reference to contributions and wealth and being able to travel back and forth, what do you expect when border lines are drawn, rampant oppression of those who originally held the wealth on their lands and prevented to travel on their continent because you need a greengo card? Look at Israel for further evidence of the lies that are perpetrated against the Palestine and the Middle East, just a repeat of the old world european elite and religious fanatics catering to itself at every expense, even the environment is in the mix...
The Human sacrifice was justification for invasion and plunder, just like what is going on with Palestine and the Middle east with the "Terrorist" lies... Stop letting your pirates brainwash you and learn to read and be critical of old world lies and their genocides. If you are not able to see between the lies and be critical, you will always be a slave, of your own gang of dogs and soon they might come for you too, if they are not doing it already. The New indian will be you!!
The Human sacrifice was justification for invasion and plunder, just like what is going on with Palestine and the Middle east with the "Terrorist" lies... Stop letting your pirates brainwash you and learn to read and be critical of old world lies and their genocides. If you are not able to see between the lies and be critical, you will always be a slave, of your own gang of dogs and soon they might come for you too, if they are not doing it already. The New indian will be you!!
07-14-2012, 08:36 AM
Interesting and uninformative reply. So far you have managed to spout opinions and two videos, one of which I found irrelevant. Where to start...
The Apocalypto scene was mostly for a dramatic reenactment of ritualistic sacrifice. If you take it as being provided for proof, you do not possess the ability to distinguish what is and is not evidence. And apparently the latter holds true, as since you are so well versed with vast arrays of literature on the subject, you are incapable of offering one shred of evidence that these sacrifices did not happen. You cannot offer evidence for anything. So far, you just cry "the white man stole my land!"
Seeing as you are the go-to guy who is obviously 100% indigenous blood, I would hope you would tell me this story instead of crying gringo.
I agree with that, it is to be expected. Just don't go saying only the Europeans can travel, as I said, Asia can travel. If you have money, you can travel. There is a rich class in Brazil that tends to do a lot of travel, too. The lack of travel is a problem, and I have nothing against so-called "illegal" immigration. If the government was not restricting jobs, the more people working would lead to a better economy with lower priced, higher quality goods. But, the government, like a constrictor, constricts the economy and then blames the "illegals", causing racial hate and divide. That is wrong.
The sacrifices happened. White people did them, Asians did them, Africans did them, human sacrifice was universal. The point I was making with that was that it did indeed happen, and things were not as ideal in Azteca as you might lead one to believe.
Depends what we call lies. I agree that the powers that be make up lies to control us all, and I can assure you, despite objection by other members of this site, the people way high up in charge are nothing like your common white European. Most of them are Ashkenazi Jews, but that is a different story. I do read and am critical, as my criticisms in this very post illustrate. I am being critical of your lack of evidence for an ideology that tends to lack basis from my perspective. And they already are persecuting us whites as well. Everyone in the world is "the next Indian".
Now, a question. How long must a land be occupied before it is no long considered occupied? Palestine has been occupied for 70 years, some of the people are first generation. Most are second or third. The South was occupied in the 1860's, making it 150 years of occupation. Most of its people are fifth or sixth generation. Azteka has been occupied for over 300 years, more than 10 generations have passed. Khazaria has been occupied for 1200 years, with countless generations. Sumeria has been occupied for over 10,000 years. At what point is a land no longer considered occupied?
Quote:Apocalypto? You got to be joking hahaha...
The Apocalypto scene was mostly for a dramatic reenactment of ritualistic sacrifice. If you take it as being provided for proof, you do not possess the ability to distinguish what is and is not evidence. And apparently the latter holds true, as since you are so well versed with vast arrays of literature on the subject, you are incapable of offering one shred of evidence that these sacrifices did not happen. You cannot offer evidence for anything. So far, you just cry "the white man stole my land!"
Quote:There is the other perspective, the one that never gets told, The Indigenous Side Story.
Seeing as you are the go-to guy who is obviously 100% indigenous blood, I would hope you would tell me this story instead of crying gringo.
Quote:In reference to contributions and wealth and being able to travel back and forth, what do you expect when border lines are drawn, rampant oppression of those who originally held the wealth on their lands and prevented to travel on their continent because you need a greengo card?
I agree with that, it is to be expected. Just don't go saying only the Europeans can travel, as I said, Asia can travel. If you have money, you can travel. There is a rich class in Brazil that tends to do a lot of travel, too. The lack of travel is a problem, and I have nothing against so-called "illegal" immigration. If the government was not restricting jobs, the more people working would lead to a better economy with lower priced, higher quality goods. But, the government, like a constrictor, constricts the economy and then blames the "illegals", causing racial hate and divide. That is wrong.
Quote:The Human sacrifice was justification for invasion and plunder, just like what is going on with Palestine and the Middle east with the "Terrorist" lies...
The sacrifices happened. White people did them, Asians did them, Africans did them, human sacrifice was universal. The point I was making with that was that it did indeed happen, and things were not as ideal in Azteca as you might lead one to believe.
Quote:Stop letting your pirates brainwash you and learn to read and be critical of old world lies and their genocides. If you are not able to see between the lies and be critical, you will always be a slave, of your own gang of dogs and soon they might come for you too, if they are not doing it already. The New indian will be you!!
Depends what we call lies. I agree that the powers that be make up lies to control us all, and I can assure you, despite objection by other members of this site, the people way high up in charge are nothing like your common white European. Most of them are Ashkenazi Jews, but that is a different story. I do read and am critical, as my criticisms in this very post illustrate. I am being critical of your lack of evidence for an ideology that tends to lack basis from my perspective. And they already are persecuting us whites as well. Everyone in the world is "the next Indian".
Now, a question. How long must a land be occupied before it is no long considered occupied? Palestine has been occupied for 70 years, some of the people are first generation. Most are second or third. The South was occupied in the 1860's, making it 150 years of occupation. Most of its people are fifth or sixth generation. Azteka has been occupied for over 300 years, more than 10 generations have passed. Khazaria has been occupied for 1200 years, with countless generations. Sumeria has been occupied for over 10,000 years. At what point is a land no longer considered occupied?
07-14-2012, 12:01 PM
Native people have been telling you for over 500 years. Human Sacrifice did not happen, why would they happen in one region, just in mexico or in the most advance civilizations and not in others? Think about that! How did the Natives of the north treat the environment and surroundings and how did they think of the Human Being or generally of people of their communities and how do they respect themselves and thought of themselves to the greater part of everything. Things were not ideal, after all they were also human beings, but that does not mean that another type of people who lust for gold, greed, god, and glory should take advantage of the Natives in Canada, The Amazons, or Africa. You my friend, must read outside the box of the good ol' U.S of patriotic Assholes and learn to know what exactly happened when the pirates landed in so called America as well as to what exactly happened with the so called 911 justified invasions of other peoples sovereignties. You must educate yourselves with what you preach, the real truth because half truths just makes you a bigger hypocrite all the while Natives are still dying within the concentration indian genocidal concentration camps within the good ol' U.S of Democracy, freedom, and equality. White america could not subdue the natives, and to this day, they are not able to kill their spirit, so they build CONCENTRATION CAMPS - YES, right here in America where they are engaged still to this day killing native people - AND THAT MY FRIEND, IS WHITE HUMAN SACRIFICE in the land of milk and and the ugly. And yet, the manifest shame is no where to be admitted, avoided at all costs and out of sight, out of mind.
Native people keep telling you, but you are unable to wake up from your thieving Matrix Masters - If you are going to live on native lands, why can't you really face the truth of the natives and their history, instead of shoving european history and imposing fear just like what is happening in Arizona with the racist school masters and that fuk Joe ArtPigo... You can't face the truth, because it will stare you right in the face and you are afraid to face your own cowardly truths and would rather embrace the lies while watching hollywood trash and false depictions of Native People on their imposed concentration camps of a slow death. Read Native Literature, the least you can do to give them a little bit of justice instead of reading the biases of monsters who have not changed much and the reason they have not changed much is because they refuse to, the fun times are too good and the bubble gum is plenty for some and not the OTHERS. And that is why you have conspiracy and conspiracy theories because your own trash has been lying to you for a long time and yet you are unwilling to face all truths since it would not be squared convenience. I really can not convince you that Human sacrifice did not happen, because you have already made your mind that all cultures do it, never has it crossed your mind that maybe some cultures did no such nonsense because of the respect they held for nature. You have to investigate your own monsters and then learn about the stolen land where natives still exist, slowly being killed by a parasite, but all vicious dogs live to see another day of truth. Just because your white ivy league schools say that its human sacrifice, does not make it so because all of your fukn universities are full of parasites, sell outs, and monsters, thats where all little demons graduate to prey on human beings elsewhere inside or outside the U.S brainwashed of Asses.... All intelligence but no fukn common sense or even the slightest type of wisdom, no damn alien would come near close to a savage nation who craves genocides, greed, and power masturbation. That is not a civilization, that is one psychopathic twisted fuked up place. Njoy your asylum....
Native people keep telling you, but you are unable to wake up from your thieving Matrix Masters - If you are going to live on native lands, why can't you really face the truth of the natives and their history, instead of shoving european history and imposing fear just like what is happening in Arizona with the racist school masters and that fuk Joe ArtPigo... You can't face the truth, because it will stare you right in the face and you are afraid to face your own cowardly truths and would rather embrace the lies while watching hollywood trash and false depictions of Native People on their imposed concentration camps of a slow death. Read Native Literature, the least you can do to give them a little bit of justice instead of reading the biases of monsters who have not changed much and the reason they have not changed much is because they refuse to, the fun times are too good and the bubble gum is plenty for some and not the OTHERS. And that is why you have conspiracy and conspiracy theories because your own trash has been lying to you for a long time and yet you are unwilling to face all truths since it would not be squared convenience. I really can not convince you that Human sacrifice did not happen, because you have already made your mind that all cultures do it, never has it crossed your mind that maybe some cultures did no such nonsense because of the respect they held for nature. You have to investigate your own monsters and then learn about the stolen land where natives still exist, slowly being killed by a parasite, but all vicious dogs live to see another day of truth. Just because your white ivy league schools say that its human sacrifice, does not make it so because all of your fukn universities are full of parasites, sell outs, and monsters, thats where all little demons graduate to prey on human beings elsewhere inside or outside the U.S brainwashed of Asses.... All intelligence but no fukn common sense or even the slightest type of wisdom, no damn alien would come near close to a savage nation who craves genocides, greed, and power masturbation. That is not a civilization, that is one psychopathic twisted fuked up place. Njoy your asylum....
07-14-2012, 06:37 PM
To start off, you tend to think that I am some brainwashed American. You are completely wrong. I am very open to the native version of history, as usually the oppressed are more accurate than the winners. I am simply demanding proof, which you still do not supply. Not even a link.
Perhaps I only know the history told to me and from my limited research. Enlighten me, give me proof.
It is not US textbook information I read. According to the surviving Aztec documents, they admit they sacrificed. Perhaps it was forged? Perhaps there was some other reason behind it? The issue is not sacrifice, but I guess things were rather utopian in Azteca.
Correct you are. They did build concentration camps and force natives into them. They killed off as many as they could as well. Some figured out how to make it big with tax free casinos and the like, but most are impoverished. However, just to point out, most countries when they conquer do not leave any land for the native people. The native people also do have an option to leave the reservation, they have duel citizenship. They are not really confined to that little slice of land. I am just throwing that in there, it does not make it right at all.
Again, give me references to their history. Give me the solution, in your own words, to this madness. Any group shoving false history and oppressing culture is committing wrong, and I agree they shove European history in the schools. Even that history they lie to us about. I would not call the school masters in Arizona racist, however. Most Americans are conned by FAUX... *ehim* FOX news that illegals are bad, and as I said before, the divide is caused by the government pitting the two groups against one another for jobs, while constantly throwing stories of Latin Americans who come here and "leech" off the system. There is nothing wrong with immigration, the problem is the government we have. And Joe Arpaio is a terrible man who deserves death. He respects no one at all.
Are you talking to me or the general American/white guy? I can face the truth, I just want proof. Is that too much to ask for? If you knew me, you would know I speak many truths that make white people look bad... And I am about as white as you can get.
I am just urging to say "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... And I'm all out of bubblegum." But I agree, they will not change. They benefit from oppressing everyone, not just natives, although they have been doing that the longest. You have yet to even mention the imperialism the USA goes through to force South America to be pretty much slaves to cheap manufacturing. Whenever any of those countries try to stand up for themselves, their leader "dies" or a "revolution" takes place to the likes of Egypt. It is wrong, but they are using the USA as the driving muscle behind the NWO. And I would love to read Native American literature, I have some I am reading right now. Give me a few good books, maybe I will check them out if I get the time. Time is just so hard to come by now.
I will accept any truth, I just require truth. Just as you would reject someone just telling you their opinion, I reject the same. I do want to hear more from you, but all you do is throw opinions at me. I have not even received a link, nor what you personally consider the solution to be.
Here you go assuming I have made up my mind, no, untrue. I simply demand proof. Your word is not enough to tell me it did not happen, and I do believe it happened, but for other reasons than what they told me in school. All I want is some proof that it did not happen, which should be easy if it did not happen.
Completely agree. The whole culture is designed to step on the last guy just to be a little higher up on the pyramid of financial success. Through lies and deceit, destruction and war does this machine turn its human-powered cogs.
The reason I do not believe what you say is because you tend to do just what you said I do, you have your mind made up. An example would be...
While the 1921 Mexican Census tends to dispute that. It is natural for the victorious group to inject their seed into the native group, to turn the native group into them.
It seems to me you just want to blame it all on the white guy, and maybe my perception is wrong, it could be. That is just the way I perceive it, and every time I ask for proof of your views, you cry gringo and say I am ignorant for not believing you. Then on the same breath you tell me to be critical. Right now I am being critical of you, demanding proof for your claims. I am open to the outcome, but if there is one thing people on this site should know, it is never accept what someone tells you without proof. Ever. Fellow "conspiracy theorists" are no different.
Oh, and also...
Can you list to me some good, information packed books?
Quote:Native people have been telling you for over 500 years. Human Sacrifice did not happen, why would they happen in one region, just in mexico or in the most advance civilizations and not in others? Think about that!
Perhaps I only know the history told to me and from my limited research. Enlighten me, give me proof.
Quote:You my friend, must read outside the box of the good ol' U.S of patriotic Assholes and learn to know what exactly happened when the pirates landed in so called America as well as to what exactly happened with the so called 911 justified invasions of other peoples sovereignties. You must educate yourselves with what you preach, the real truth because half truths just makes you a bigger hypocrite all the while Natives are still dying within the concentration indian genocidal concentration camps within the good ol' U.S of Democracy, freedom, and equality.
It is not US textbook information I read. According to the surviving Aztec documents, they admit they sacrificed. Perhaps it was forged? Perhaps there was some other reason behind it? The issue is not sacrifice, but I guess things were rather utopian in Azteca.
Quote:...so they build CONCENTRATION CAMPS - YES, right here in America where they are engaged still to this day killing native people - AND THAT MY FRIEND, IS WHITE HUMAN SACRIFICE in the land of milk and and the ugly. And yet, the manifest shame is no where to be admitted, avoided at all costs and out of sight, out of mind.
Correct you are. They did build concentration camps and force natives into them. They killed off as many as they could as well. Some figured out how to make it big with tax free casinos and the like, but most are impoverished. However, just to point out, most countries when they conquer do not leave any land for the native people. The native people also do have an option to leave the reservation, they have duel citizenship. They are not really confined to that little slice of land. I am just throwing that in there, it does not make it right at all.
Quote:Native people keep telling you, but you are unable to wake up from your thieving Matrix Masters - If you are going to live on native lands, why can't you really face the truth of the natives and their history, instead of shoving european history and imposing fear just like what is happening in Arizona with the racist school masters and that fuk Joe ArtPigo...
Again, give me references to their history. Give me the solution, in your own words, to this madness. Any group shoving false history and oppressing culture is committing wrong, and I agree they shove European history in the schools. Even that history they lie to us about. I would not call the school masters in Arizona racist, however. Most Americans are conned by FAUX... *ehim* FOX news that illegals are bad, and as I said before, the divide is caused by the government pitting the two groups against one another for jobs, while constantly throwing stories of Latin Americans who come here and "leech" off the system. There is nothing wrong with immigration, the problem is the government we have. And Joe Arpaio is a terrible man who deserves death. He respects no one at all.
Quote:You can't face the truth, because it will stare you right in the face and you are afraid to face your own cowardly truths and would rather embrace the lies while watching hollywood trash and false depictions of Native People on their imposed concentration camps of a slow death.
Are you talking to me or the general American/white guy? I can face the truth, I just want proof. Is that too much to ask for? If you knew me, you would know I speak many truths that make white people look bad... And I am about as white as you can get.
Quote:Read Native Literature, the least you can do to give them a little bit of justice instead of reading the biases of monsters who have not changed much and the reason they have not changed much is because they refuse to, the fun times are too good and the bubble gum is plenty for some and not the OTHERS.
I am just urging to say "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... And I'm all out of bubblegum." But I agree, they will not change. They benefit from oppressing everyone, not just natives, although they have been doing that the longest. You have yet to even mention the imperialism the USA goes through to force South America to be pretty much slaves to cheap manufacturing. Whenever any of those countries try to stand up for themselves, their leader "dies" or a "revolution" takes place to the likes of Egypt. It is wrong, but they are using the USA as the driving muscle behind the NWO. And I would love to read Native American literature, I have some I am reading right now. Give me a few good books, maybe I will check them out if I get the time. Time is just so hard to come by now.
Quote:And that is why you have conspiracy and conspiracy theories because your own trash has been lying to you for a long time and yet you are unwilling to face all truths since it would not be squared convenience.
I will accept any truth, I just require truth. Just as you would reject someone just telling you their opinion, I reject the same. I do want to hear more from you, but all you do is throw opinions at me. I have not even received a link, nor what you personally consider the solution to be.
Quote:really can not convince you that Human sacrifice did not happen, because you have already made your mind that all cultures do it, never has it crossed your mind that maybe some cultures did no such nonsense because of the respect they held for nature.
Here you go assuming I have made up my mind, no, untrue. I simply demand proof. Your word is not enough to tell me it did not happen, and I do believe it happened, but for other reasons than what they told me in school. All I want is some proof that it did not happen, which should be easy if it did not happen.
Quote:You have to investigate your own monsters and then learn about the stolen land where natives still exist, slowly being killed by a parasite, but all vicious dogs live to see another day of truth. Just because your white ivy league schools say that its human sacrifice, does not make it so because all of your fukn universities are full of parasites, sell outs, and monsters, thats where all little demons graduate to prey on human beings elsewhere inside or outside the U.S brainwashed of Asses.... All intelligence but no fukn common sense or even the slightest type of wisdom, no damn alien would come near close to a savage nation who craves genocides, greed, and power masturbation. That is not a civilization, that is one psychopathic twisted fuked up place.
Completely agree. The whole culture is designed to step on the last guy just to be a little higher up on the pyramid of financial success. Through lies and deceit, destruction and war does this machine turn its human-powered cogs.
The reason I do not believe what you say is because you tend to do just what you said I do, you have your mind made up. An example would be...
Quote:And there is no such thing as European Mexican...
While the 1921 Mexican Census tends to dispute that. It is natural for the victorious group to inject their seed into the native group, to turn the native group into them.
It seems to me you just want to blame it all on the white guy, and maybe my perception is wrong, it could be. That is just the way I perceive it, and every time I ask for proof of your views, you cry gringo and say I am ignorant for not believing you. Then on the same breath you tell me to be critical. Right now I am being critical of you, demanding proof for your claims. I am open to the outcome, but if there is one thing people on this site should know, it is never accept what someone tells you without proof. Ever. Fellow "conspiracy theorists" are no different.
Oh, and also...
Quote:...I hold a very extensive library on Native History.
Can you list to me some good, information packed books?
07-14-2012, 08:32 PM
The School Masters of Arizona are and do act as a bunch of Racists. You have a bunch of ripublican looters retiring in Arizona of which they crave california as well. Nothing like getting a good tan.. The Proof you want or would want to seek, if you have time, is that you go out and speak with native people, those are your first sources. Visit a concentration camp in America, aka reservation and understand who they are and their version of history. The Human sacrifice aspect pictures you find on the internet or codexes are false. Those are forged depictions by the spanish friars who wanted to show their greater masters in Europe and to brainwash the european populace of their justifications of torture, racism, demonization, devil worshipping, human sacrifice, fear, and imposition of religion, as well of the plunder they took and are taking at the moment. Almost every church you see in Mexico sits on top of a so called pyramid, they are actually temples and not pyramids like in Egypt. Those churches, pirate parasites did that on purpose to destroy the old ceremonies and to impose a wicked religion. When you destroy, deface, and desecrate cultures and build a church using the previous structures on top of native ceremonial centers, that makes the christian and catholic religion a wicked entity and there is plenty of sights, the church does really want people to know about its criminal activity. But nonetheless, the discriminatory practices of some brainwashed europeans have not stop, the churches are one example and wicked policies at all levels to the natives and their descendants. That by itself is a parasite leeching off the blood of a natural continent and its people. What will happen in 100 years from now? once all waters are polluted, the environment destroyed, native people decimated and their skulls put on some museums to admire and glorified as the bush's have done to the skull of Geronimo and Pancho Villa. The burden is not put on the most of white america, because they are too stupid to know what is going on with their corporations and their government pirates, you can't blame ignorance right and brainwashed right, but nonetheless the white population is being used against other people and that makes them complicit, just as the jewish population is being used against the middle east by the most looting vampires on the planet.
One book if you are interested to being enlighten, which cover a lot of conspiracies in and by itself amongst other books:
Conquest
Andrea Smith, Forward by Winona Laduke
One book if you are interested to being enlighten, which cover a lot of conspiracies in and by itself amongst other books:
Conquest
Andrea Smith, Forward by Winona Laduke
07-15-2012, 06:32 AM
Quote:The Proof you want or would want to seek, if you have time, is that you go out and speak with native people, those are your first sources.
I do not have the option to visit these people. Perhaps they write blogs, do you know a few?
Quote:The Human sacrifice aspect pictures you find on the internet or codexes are false. Those are forged depictions by the spanish friars who wanted to show their greater masters in Europe and to brainwash the european populace of their justifications of torture, racism, demonization, devil worshipping, human sacrifice, fear, and imposition of religion, as well of the plunder they took and are taking at the moment.
I am willing to believe it. I just simply want proof, more than what you say. Like I said, I think they did commit human sacrifices, but not why the school books say so. I am willing to change my view, I just want evidence.
Quote:The burden is not put on the most of white america, because they are too stupid to know what is going on with their corporations and their government pirates, you can't blame ignorance right and brainwashed right, but nonetheless the white population is being used against other people and that makes them complicit, just as the jewish population is being used against the middle east by the most looting vampires on the planet.
Agreed. They play races off against one another, the old tried and true "divide and conquer". It may be wrong, but I do hold the ignorant accountable to a minor extent. The reason is, most Americans have access to computers and internet. We all had to find out the truth some way or another, and they have access. They could find out, they just never cared. It does not help they are being distracted with frivolous worries and silly competitions.
As for the video and such, I will have to check it out later when I have an hour to spare. Life is so busy, you know?
07-26-2012, 04:27 AM
07-26-2012, 04:27 PM
(07-13-2012 10:28 PM)Anarchist Wrote: [ -> ]I cannot believe that I wasted 16 minutes of my time on this video.
Life is short. If a person is so under-developed they go around crying about the woe of being a Jew or Woman or Mexican, the probability that sorting through their drivel is a waste of time approaches 100%. They are so unlikely to have anything interesting to read, you do yourself a great favor by sweeping it away.
I put Mexika on my ignore list: http://concen.org/forum/usercp.php?action=editlists
More efficient. More productive. More profitable. More time to process the good stuff.