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Quote:Sorry for the typos/errors on GG. I write fast and without an editor.

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In feudal times, you could be put to death if you didn't kneel when the carriages of the nobility passed by. This is a step in that direction (although very few people care).

I'm not that excited to write about this type of thing. Seems like more of a chore than something I want to do. Why do I write about it? It's another milestone on the decline of the US that is worth highlighting for future historians.

I can see these future historians now: poring over the output of software systems that cull trends from massive social media (Facebook, Twitter, blogs, etc.) repositories. Some will be shaking their heads, asking themselves: what were those numbskulls in the early 21st Century thinking about when their governments began to hollow out? Why were they so passive as things began to fall apart?

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This new bill, about to be signed by the President, is called the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. It is not as innocent as its name.

Essentially, it makes it a federal offense to be anywhere near, from being in the area or in the same building, somebody protected by the secret service. That's from the President to candidates for political office (Romney or Santorum) to senior government officials to foreign dignitaries (G20). In other words, lots and lots of people.

While being sold as a way to close a loophole in the current law regarding White House security, it is actually much more than that. It changed one word that made a world of difference. What's the difference?

To be arrested and imprisoned, all you need to do is be the same building or area around a person that has secret service protection. You don't even need to know you are breaking the law to be arrested and imprisoned. If you are merely walking in an area "secured" for a person being protected, you can be legally jailed for up to one year. If you are carrying something that can be seen as a weapon (legally or not), that imprisonment can be extended to ten years.

In short, if you are within the same building or neighborhood being secured to protect a political or foreign personage without their expressed permission, you can be imprisoned.

"Trust us" or "they are good people" isn't a valid answer to this critique. If a new power can be abused legally, it will eventually be abused. Very simple tautology.

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/glob...bill-.html

Quote:The Era of the Creepy-State is Here

George Orwell was more right than he knew….

Congress passed a law – by unanimous consent in the Senate and by a suspension of rules in the House – to permit the Federal government to arbitrarily arrest and imprison for up to ten years members of the serf class (formerly known as “American citizens”) whose presence annoys or offends specally designated members of the elite and foreign dignitaries. A list that will no doubt expand greatly in future legislation to include very “special” private citizens.

Think about that, future “Joe the Plumbers” or Cindy Sheehans, before you ask an impertinent question of your betters or wave your handmade cardboard sign. Is ten seconds of glory on your local ABC affiliate news at 5 o’clock worth that felony arrest record and federally funded anal exam?

No? Then kindly shut your mouth, sir. Learn your place.

Two nebbish Representatives, one Republican and one Democrat, distinguished only by their lack of legislative or political importance, sponsored the bill on behalf of the big boys who fast-tracked it under the radar (they learned from the SOPA debacle). Forget ideology or boasts about carrying a copy of the Constitution in the breast pocket of their suit, whether you are in an archconservative Congressional district or an ultraliberal one, almost every member of Congress voted “aye” to trash multiple amendments in the Bill of Rights.

Almost every one.

This is an accelerating trend in recent years and in particular, a bipartisan theme of the 112th Congress, which views Constitutional rights of nobodies as an anachronistic hindrance to the interests (or convenience) of their powerful and wealthy political supporters. Our elected officials and their backers increasingly share an oligarchic class interest that in important matters, trumps the Kabuki partisanship of FOXnews and MSNBC and inculcates a technocratic admiration for the “efficiency” of select police states.

It is from this demographic-cultural root of incestuous corruption that our creeping – and increasingly creepy – manifestations of authoritarianism in American life springs. The SOPA/PIPA internet censorship bills, naked scanners at airports, Stasi-like expansion of expensively wasteful TSA security theater, proposed 24/7 monitoring of every American’s online activities, migration of police powers to unaccountable private firms, replacement of elected municipal governments with “emergency managers” (favoring financiers over taxpayers), Federal agencies monitoring political critics , the Department of Justice retro-legalizing corporate racketeering, fraud, perjury and conspiracy on a national scale, plus other infringements of liberty or gross corruption that I could list, ad nauseum.

We have reached the point where we as Americans need to stop, step back from moment by moment fixation on nonsensical, “white noise” fake political issues like “contraception” ginned up to keep the partisans distracted and become seriously involved in determining the direction in which our nation is headed. Our elite are telegraphing their strong preference for a “soft dictatorship” but we still have time to check their ambitions and rein in their looting.

It is almost quaint these days to pick up Friedrich von Hayek’s classic, The Road to Serfdom and thumb through it. The libertarian antistatists of the 20th century were so focused on the clear and present dangers of totalitarianism that the idea of a weak state that endangered liberty through a mixture of corruption and regulatory capture eluded them. The Westphalian state at it’s apex was so overweening that the enemy of free societies, after foreign monsters like Hitler and Stalin, could be ambitious intellectual pygmies like Harold Laski or Tom Hayden. The state was so omnipotent that even it’s efforts at benevolence, to build a “Great Society” of the Welfare State were injurious to individual freedom because the expanse of statism crowded and weakened civil society , the market and private life. The argument gained political traction because, to varying degrees, it was true and looked prophetic when the Welfare-state began to crash economically in the 1970′s on stagflation.

Give the Welfare-state liberals and Social Democrats of the past their due though, their intentions by their own lights were benign. They wanted to make a safer, more secure, more equal, more just life through a more powerful state (whether that was a good idea or a realistic endeavor was the central political question between right and left). The current elite in comparison is so inferior in moral character and overconfident in their abilities that they may soon make us yearn for the former’s return.

What have now in our ruling class, are the builders of a Creepy-state and their intentions are not benign, except toward themselves, for as long as the looting of the American economy can last.

Unlike the Welfare-state, the Creepy-state, shot through with corruption, is not omnipotent because it is to be the servant and gendarme of the emerging oligarchy and not their master – but it is to be omniscient and omnipresent, constantly watching, monitoring, investigating, recording, interrogating, coercing, sorting, muzzling, gatekeeping and shearing the sheep on behalf of the shepherds.

Or the wolves.

The Creepy-state is not there to protect you or give you a higher standard of living or ensure justice or democracy, but to maintain a hierarchical public order from “disruption” (formerly known as “politics” or “democracy”). If the classical liberal ideal was the night watchman state, this state is the shadowy and ill-disposed watcher in the night.

The American political elite, Democrat and Republican, Conservative and Liberal, are in are largely in consensus that the government should, in regard to the American people:

Read your email
Listen to your phone calls
Track your movements on GPS
Track your online activity
Track your spending
Track your political activity
Read your medical records
Read your financial records
Scan your body
Scan your house
Scan your DNA
Keep you under video surveillance in public
Detain you at random in public places for security checks
Close off public spaces for private use
Seize private property for private use
Censor your speech
Block your access to judicial relief
Determine your educational and career path
Regulate your diet, place of residence, lifestyle and living standards (ever downwards)
Charge you with secret crimes for breaking secret regulations
Share or leak information about you at will

Is this the America we wish for our children or grandchildren? One that epitomizes the values of our Constitution or Declaration of Independence, or is it some kind of tawdry and shameful dime store fascism of a small Latin American country? Perhaps life is finally imitating fiction?

Fortunately, it is not too late. Irrevocable changes in the constitutional order have yet to be engineered. Our politicians are followers, not leaders here. They are a small and cowardly lot for the most part and will recoil in fear from this authoritarian ethos if a sufficiently large number of elected officials are thrown out of office at once. We can still roll this back – at least the most egregiously anti-American aspects – if we get sufficiently angry come November.

Self-interest is their only lodestone.

best if read here http://zenpundit.com/?p=5589

The American sheep deserve it. I hope this government continues to pen legislation such as this, ndaa, SOPA, patriot act etc. I'm interested to see how long it takes for the majority of sheep to wake up. Seems the establishment is winning with how quickly and effectively they are indoctrinating young minds through the US "education" system.

Anyone want to place some bets on what the breaking point will be?

I'm betting that when cable prices are increased it will be what sends the sheep into outrage. Never mess with the sheeples cable tv, dancing with the "stars" and their NFL games.

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http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr...347rfs.pdf

IDK. TBH, if I was them and knew there were a bunch of people discussing "hanging the bastards", like I've seen around here a few times, I would probably be fearful enough to want something like this...

Masterchiefa, yeah but this type of legislation, bill, law doesn't prevent the citizens from becoming angry and wanting blood, it does the exact opposite in that it makes citizens even more angry. The more oppression they dish out, the worse of an environment they make this nation, not for the oppressed, but also for the oppressors.

They are so blinded by their greed and lust for power that they don't understand that if they just reversed the oppression and did the opposite of what they are doing that they wouldn't be getting death threats and growing the resistance.

The problem though is that too many Americans are sell outs. Instead of resisting and fighting against the tyrants, Americans join them because of the material possessions such as money, houses, cars, and of course they believe they receive immunity too. All of that is an illusion of happiness, a short term fix to a long term problem.

Imagine this nation ten years from now, how big the government sector will be. If dhs keeps up with their see something say something program this whole nation will be a bunch of untrusting people spying on each other, ratting each other out to dhs for farting in the wrong direction. That's if we make it another twenty years without a revolution or another civil war. I'd say we are probably 24 to 36 months away from some major violent upheavals. I think it will come after the election, maybe a year after Romney is pushed in and even more people realize that he is no different from obummer or bush jr. That or after obomba is elected for his second term and he and his thug democrat party continue to go above congress, print "stimulus" bills, and pen/sign unconstitutional legislation.

Quote:Imagine this nation ten years from now, how big the government sector will be.

.. and/or the corporate sector. Point is the power shift has to move away from this disappropriation. True that the masses are pacified by rationalizations, compartmentalization, propaganda and the the illusion of the commodity relative happiness as opposed to absolute via the bribes of commercial goods, 'class', convenience and outsourced responsibility.

To get our countries, communities and families back we have to collectively and individually reject the bribes and take responsibility rather than blaming and protesting our representatives.

I sense a fumble coming in the 4th quarter; be ready and willing to recover it and take possession.

(03-08-2012 08:24 PM)Sovereignman Wrote: [ -> ]They are so blinded by their greed and lust for power that they don't understand that if they just reversed the oppression and did the opposite of what they are doing that they wouldn't be getting death threats and growing the resistance.

I think they do understand the effect that it is having. They enact more oppressive legislation so that the public will react violently. When that occurs, they will use the military to enact the full martial law and then can dispense with the pretense of being a free society. These people are not stupid. Arrogant as hell but definitely not stupid.

Yeah I had thought of that point too, that it is deliberate.

This is why everywhere I go [on the web] when I see people complaining I remind them that when the revolt begins they should target the congressmen who have made these laws.

I have a growing list that I would love to post but for obvious reasons I won't. For those of us who are aware though it's not difficult to imagine who would be on that list. Just think of the most oppressive legislation that has been proposed or signed into law and there you have it. Ndaa, sopa, patriot act, hr 347, etc.

These are still people we are talking about, crazy tyrants, but they still go to a residence to sleep, eat, shower, change clothes. They still eat dinner at public restaurants, use public roads, pick up their bastard kids from school, etc. They can be found quite easily.

This is what boggles my mind about military and armed forces idiots. They are so weak minded that they can't see who the real enemies are to this nation, the people who they take orders from. No, instead they actually believe that some people on the other side of the planet who practice a religion and live a lifestyle other than what westerners do are enemies. Then when you point out that the domestic enemies in government are a greater threat, they get all angry and want to get violent against you. Stupid government sackriders.

If the armed forces enlisted were smart, which we know by now that the majority are not, they would quit, discharge, and go after the real enemy. Now THAT would be "fighting for freedom". Freedom from the tyrants, the oppressors.

(03-08-2012 01:52 AM)Sovereignman Wrote: [ -> ]The American sheep deserve it. I hope this government continues to pen legislation such as this, ndaa, SOPA, patriot act etc. I'm interested to see how long it takes for the majority of sheep to wake up. Seems the establishment is winning with how quickly and effectively they are indoctrinating young minds through the US "education" system.

Anyone want to place some bets on what the breaking point will be?

Your right they deserve it.I don't think any more will ever wake up or a breaking point reached.The few in places like this and those in the occupy movement are it.What we should be doing is fighting through the legal system.

Arraignment law is where to start.When the judge asks your name tell him you don't know as it's what you have been told what your name is(hear say is not allowed in the courts and unless you own up to your name or birth date they are just hear say).Birth date same answer I don't know. then he or she will ask you 4 or 5 questions(you have to answer these or it's contempt of court)the trick to these it to answer under protest and duress.you need to say this after you answer every question yes or no(it does not matter).then for the last question are you responsible for these charges against you.this one is a big no.then you can hand the judge a bill for your time and so forth.the only way we will ever learn is to try it when in a jam.I'm not saying to go out and start shit just to try this but it is the only way we will learn.Any one here know how long the courts keep arraignment records.If they keep them long enough I will pull mine and post them here.

the other thing is when you have children get a certificate of live birth not a birth certificate.

(03-08-2012 08:24 PM)Sovereignman Wrote: [ -> ]Masterchiefa, yeah but this type of legislation, bill, law doesn't prevent the citizens from becoming angry and wanting blood

Did I even imply it did? Could it be I just understand why they're fearful?

(03-08-2012 08:24 PM)Sovereignman Wrote: [ -> ]it does the exact opposite in that it makes citizens even more angry. The more oppression they dish out, the worse of an environment they make this nation, not for the oppressed, but also for the oppressors.

Oppressed?! As in, citizens are just victims, aye? I continue to ask the following question(s), and have yet to receive an answer from the "victims": If someone/something else is the cause of the problem, what can you do about it other than complain and hope others join your cause, whatever it may be? Conversely, if you're the cause of the problem, could you change and become the solution?

You could be right about making it even worse, but do you really think there weren't already plenty of angry citizens?

(03-08-2012 08:24 PM)Sovereignman Wrote: [ -> ]They are so blinded by their greed and lust for power that they don't understand that if they just reversed the oppression and did the opposite of what they are doing that they wouldn't be getting death threats and growing the resistance.

Do you believe you can "prove" this claim, and if so, how would you plan to go about doing so?

(03-08-2012 08:24 PM)Sovereignman Wrote: [ -> ]The problem though is that too many Americans are sell outs. Instead of resisting and fighting against the tyrants, Americans join them because of the material possessions such as money, houses, cars, and of course they believe they receive immunity too. All of that is an illusion of happiness, a short term fix to a long term problem.

You think resisting and fighting are solutions?! Could it be that the cause of the problem in the first place is controversy?

No I did not imply that you did.

I wish I knew what the solution to the problem is. Right now I don't see there being any solutions. The closest to a solution is banding together with others that share the same beliefs and then spreading the word. Even still it is difficult to unlock minds because the mainstream media is a monster, a powerhouse. Then there are those who just refuse to to see the truth and cannot be enlightened.

So yeah I complain and talk shit, my way of venting. Tell me what I can change to be a part of the solution. I feel I am part of the solution by doing the opposite of what most Americans do. If a person keeps doing what the establishment wants them to, and we know it is part of what is destroying the country, it makes sense to me to resist the status quo and do opposite of what they brainwash people into doing.

I can't prove the claim but if we look at history it shows us that when there was smaller government with less restrictions weren't people (citizens) happier during those times?

Yes, I think that by resisting I am not being a part of what is ruining this country. What I believe to be ruining the USA is going along with the crowd, swimming with the fish, grazing with the sheep. If I acquire food stamps, unemployment, borrow lots of money, use credit cards, watch a lot of msnbc or fox and take what either one says as truth and then bash the other side, if I open a business and hire illegal aliens that send money out of the country thus weakening our economy and putting a US citizen out of a job, if i outsource jobs to india or china like apple and nike do, if I supported presidential candidates that msm constantly put in front of my face, then yes I believe all of those things are what is contributing to the decline of this nation.

Aren't they?

After all, if people have been doing all of these things for testa and we keep going downhill wouldn't it make sense to do the opposite to reverse the trend