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For a long time, I thought Israel was a terror-state, because of the info I got from the mainstream media in EU.

My father is a diplomat and was sent to Israel. He sees the same information the Ambassador gets. He told me, I was wrong about my views about Israel and it's totally different from what is really going on. At first I thought he had been Israeli brainwashed, before he was allowed to enter the country.
My father and I often disagree on many topics like 9/11, NWO etc. In other words. He is a sheep. When I did my own research, I discovered, he is right! There is an anti-Israeli conspiracy in the mainstream media. In the US, Israel is overprotected by the political correctness that makes people hate Israel even more, because the public is not allowed to say what they feel without the fear of being called a Nazi. In EU it's different. The media are pro-Gaza and anti-Israel.

The reality is, that Hamas brainwash children to hate Jews and to think they go to paradise, if they blow them selves up. They create the illusion Israel is an evil aggressor. It works very well in the propaganda war the mainstream media supports. the anti-Israeli conspiracy is mio. times easier to prove than the 9/11 conspiracy. Please research it and you will discover how many lies the mainstream New World Order controlled media says about Israel.

Israel is very important for the NWO. They want to play Israel out against the Muslims and detonate WW3. We have to unite Jews, Muslims, Christians etc. because we are all in the same boat.

I speak very well with Israelis and educate them about 9/11, New World Order etc. I even communicate with Israel National radio and they invited me on the show. I refused because I think AJ would be a better choice. They are covering some of the NWO conspiracy.

Israelis are difficult to become friends with and I have also been accused of being a Nazi, antisemitic or Iranian propaganda agent, when I was researching the anti-Israeli conspiracy. They are super paranoid and over sensitive.
Now I understand the situation better and I see a much loving and spiritual side of the Israelis. They know the world hates them or hate Zionists. That is why, they are very defensive and aggressive. A Zionist is like a US patriot. Many Israelis are Zionists/Patriots. They stick together against a world that hates them.
I think many US Patriots would get pissed off as well, if someone said 9/11 was a US Patriot conspiracy but the Americans in general are ok(9/11 was a Zionist conspiracy but Jews in general are ok),

My conclusion is, the NWO is a very old conspiracy back to Babylon and Egypt and it's the same bloodlines there are in control today. If Jews where left alone, they would create global Shalom(Peace) and they are very spiritual and good people caring about humanity. They are a very strong people as well. Notice the entire world is against Israel with propaganda wars and are attacked by terrorists and Arab countries and yet they stand strong. Yes they have a lobby in US, nukes, Mossad, wiretap phones etc. But they have to survive.

I believe, if we expose the anti-Israeli conspiracy, Israel will become a very powerful ally in our fight against NWO. Why do you think the cointelpro go after AJ + Israel? It's because that are the 2 powers they fear the most! NWO are experts in Divide and Conquer.

Google picture "gaza foodmarket",
Youtube"hamas children","real gaza","pallywood","gaza mall","Gaza water park"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YSO31A4...ideo_title

Hamas TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjbJnZUJT...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FHHZ-BOM...re=related

Son of Hamas agent of Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YSO31A4...ideo_title

To say that there is an anti-Israeli bias is perhaps true, perhaps not.
OTOH to call it a conspiracy when it is in full public view, is a contradiction in terms.

As far as I see it, Israel has sown the wind and is now reaping the wirlwind.

(06-07-2011 05:19 PM)OTO Wrote: [ -> ]For a long time, I thought Israel was a terror-state, because of the info I got from the mainstream media in EU.

My father is a diplomat and was sent to Israel. He sees the same information the Ambassador gets. He told me, I was wrong about my views about Israel and it's totally different from what is really going on. At first I thought he had been Israeli brainwashed, before he was allowed to enter the country.
My father and I often disagree on many topics like 9/11, NWO etc. In other words. He is a sheep. When I did my own research, I discovered, he is right! There is an anti-Israeli conspiracy in the mainstream media. In the US, Israel is overprotected by the political correctness that makes people hate Israel even more, because the public is not allowed to say what they feel without the fear of being called a Nazi. In EU it's different. The media are pro-Gaza and anti-Israel.

The reality is, that Hamas brainwash children to hate Jews and to think they go to paradise, if they blow them selves up. They create the illusion Israel is an evil aggressor. It works very well in the propaganda war the mainstream media supports. the anti-Israeli conspiracy is mio. times easier to prove than the 9/11 conspiracy. Please research it and you will discover how many lies the mainstream New World Order controlled media says about Israel.

Israel is very important for the NWO. They want to play Israel out against the Muslims and detonate WW3. We have to unite Jews, Muslims, Christians etc. because we are all in the same boat.

I speak very well with Israelis and educate them about 9/11, New World Order etc. I even communicate with Israel National radio and they invited me on the show. I refused because I think AJ would be a better choice. They are covering some of the NWO conspiracy.

Israelis are difficult to become friends with and I have also been accused of being a Nazi, antisemitic or Iranian propaganda agent, when I was researching the anti-Israeli conspiracy. They are super paranoid and over sensitive.
Now I understand the situation better and I see a much loving and spiritual side of the Israelis. They know the world hates them or hate Zionists. That is why, they are very defensive and aggressive. A Zionist is like a US patriot. Many Israelis are Zionists/Patriots. They stick together against a world that hates them.
I think many US Patriots would get pissed off as well, if someone said 9/11 was a US Patriot conspiracy but the Americans in general are ok(9/11 was a Zionist conspiracy but Jews in general are ok),

My conclusion is, the NWO is a very old conspiracy back to Babylon and Egypt and it's the same bloodlines there are in control today. If Jews where left alone, they would create global Shalom(Peace) and they are very spiritual and good people caring about humanity. They are a very strong people as well. Notice the entire world is against Israel with propaganda wars and are attacked by terrorists and Arab countries and yet they stand strong. Yes they have a lobby in US, nukes, Mossad, wiretap phones etc. But they have to survive.

I believe, if we expose the anti-Israeli conspiracy, Israel will become a very powerful ally in our fight against NWO. Why do you think the cointelpro go after AJ + Israel? It's because that are the 2 powers they fear the most! NWO are experts in Divide and Conquer.

Google picture "gaza foodmarket",
Youtube"hamas children","real gaza","pallywood","gaza mall","Gaza water park"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YSO31A4...ideo_title

Hamas TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjbJnZUJT...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FHHZ-BOM...re=related

Son of Hamas agent of Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YSO31A4...ideo_title

Basically what this guy is saying is that it is all the fault of the LEPRECHAUNS

You, OTO, are a real courageous free thinker in the true sense. I expect you to be "stoned to death" (in a metaphorical sense) on here quite soon though. By some people who are not yet willing to give up their beloved belief system.

Many people won't even acknowledge that the Arab side is resorting to actions which could in the same way be described as war crimes as they deliberately involve innocent civilians in the conflict – with (suicide) bombings in highly populated cities, firing rockets so that civilians in residential areas live in constant fear, or using their own people as human shields. Strange enough one never hears a peep about this from most people in the "truth movement". It's pretty obvious to me where this one-sidedness should lead to.

But taking sides in this conflict means being played by the powers that be. Many people who think they have ”woken up” are just pretty much thinking as they are supposed to. Unfortunately the truth has many levels, and just blaming the Zionists for everything doesn't go really deep and comes close to the core IMHO.

It should be obvious that Israel is not in control of everything, otherwise

- it would not have the problems it has, and if only with its reputation
- you would not hear about the Gaza aid flotilla, the Dubai assassination etc in all the mainstream media
- you would not see major NWO factions like the EU, the UN, and certain politicians in the US criticize and condemn Israel und put it under pressure

The ultimate truth would consist of stepping back, refraining from taking sides and trying to see the bigger picture here. And certainly there must be a bigger picture.

People should ask themselves what the greater picture could be here and why the „Holy Land” seems to be of such importance. Is that what some people identify as Zionisms really motivated by Jewish interests? Could it be that maybe both sides of the conflict are controlled? Are there non-Jewish, non-Arab third parties profiting from the whole conflict that seemingly is kept going on forever? Some researchers have tried to answer that question. If they are actually right I cannot say for sure. But at least they have taken a shot at the greater picture – instead of endlessly taking sides and just screaming „war crime!” all day long.

Maybe you find some of the following links useful for your ongoing research:



The Secret War Against The Jews
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=8789

Barry Chamish: Why The PLO Is Tunneling Under The Temple Mount
http://www.rense.com/general7/tunnel.htm

Barry Chamish's revelations and predictions
http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_...topic=6482
http://www.uhcg.org/Israel-Beware/Save-I...hapt4.html





Taking a look at the other side:

Quote:Woman killed, dozens hurt in Jerusalem bombing

03/23/2011

Bag explodes next to bus stop near Central Bus Station; blast shatters lengthy period of relative quiet; [...]

A woman was killed and 39 people were wounded on Wednesday afternoon when a bag exploded next to a bus stop across the street from the Jerusalem International Convention Center (Binyanei Ha’uma), near the capital’s western entrance.

It was the first serious terrorist bombing in the city since 2004, and for many residents it brought back terrible memories of the second intifada.

[...]

Police and paramedics treated a total of 50 people. Three were critically wounded in the explosion itself, and one, a 60-year-old woman believed to be a tourist, succumbed to her wounds later in the afternoon at Hadassah-Ein Kerem Medical Center. Her identity was not released for publication by press time.

[...]

Police were looking for the person who left the bag with the bomb, and there were reports that witnesses said they’d be able to identify him.

Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch said the device weighed between one and two kilograms and was packed with shrapnel.

http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/Video...?id=213442

Quote:Boy, 16, badly hurt after Hamas fires missile at school bus

04/08/2011

Many children had just got off when vehicle was struck with anti-tank missile in Negev; Palestinians fire 45 mortars, rockets after attack.

An anti-tank missile fired from the Gaza Strip struck a school bus in the Negev on Thursday, critically wounding a 16-year-old boy and setting off a fierce round of clashes between the IDF and Palestinian terrorists.

The missile, which was fired by Hamas, hit the bus moments after most of the children got off, while it was driving near Kibbutz Saad, about 2.5 km. from Gaza. Only two people were on the bus when it was hit – the driver, who was lightly injured, and the boy, who was en route to visit his grandmother. The bus driver is a friend of the family.

Immediately after the attack, Palestinians fired more than 45 mortar shells and Katyusha and Kassam rockets into Israel.

One of the Grad-model Katyusha rockets was intercepted by the Iron Dome counter-rocket defense system deployed south of Ashkelon, proving its capabilities in combat for the first time.

IDF officers said that the attack – the first time an anti-tank missile was fired deep into Israel, and, officers believe, deliberately targeting the school bus – “crossed all red lines” and that Hamas would pay dearly.

[...]

http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/20Que...?id=215679

Quote:04/03/2011

[...]

Following the operation, on Saturday the Counter-Terror Bureau urged Israelis to leave the Sinai Peninsula immediately, after revealing that Israeli intelligence agencies had obtained concrete information of plans by terrorists to kidnap or attack Israeli nationals vacationing there over the upcoming Pessah holiday.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=214940

Hamas using children as human shields
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWQQFJXMrg4

Hamas using children as human shield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08GqXMr3YE

Hamas admits it uses human shields
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs

Human Shields - Hamas in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYtij4Q7sE

This is how the palestinians using their children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3c5uWIDBXY

(06-07-2011 09:56 PM)SirBustaBear Wrote: [ -> ]It should be obvious that Israel is not in control of everything,

No, just the things that seemingly matter, such as the airport security at ALL FOUR airports on 911, ALL the cameras in ALL the tube stations, trains and busses on 7,7...

Wake up.

How the hell did this thread slide out of the front page? It's the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

@ SirBustaBear, you should ask yourself about who put the bag there and all the other so called terrorist attacks.

Governments are much more prone to advance their agenda through terrorist attacks than little Palestinian boys or girls.

Remember 9/11?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCPUIfr8PY

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAVZV5g7h...re=related LOL

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvPpUGxY6eg

These clowns are so hilarious, please come up with more ADL-comedy like that

Dude, turn off the tv and go back to disagreeing with your jew loving father.

I suggest getting out while there's still a chance, these people are devils in wolfs clothing.

Have you ever read thier holy book the "tal-mud" it's full of some sick shit!

Here's a real eye opener and the facts in it can't be denied, their documented

Human Sacrifice Among Fanatical Hasidic Cults

http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=24172

Dear Sir BustaBear,

Yes I'm used to being attacked with stones from all sides, because people like to stick to their false belief-systems and don't want the truth. even though truth will set us free.

When I was doing my research I got banned from IDF or Zionist forums and called an antisemitic and accused of spreading Iranian propaganda, on an Iranian military forum I got a death threat and they called me a Zionist agent, on this site all hell broke lose and some called me a Zionist agent, at prisonplanet forum I was banned within 1 day and I was accused of being an agent for Israel, David Icke forum was the same thing. I was attacked by Zionist haters and they teamed up on me. I often had to fight against 15-20 anti-Israel and Alex Jones haters at the same time.

It's the most unpopular hypothesis to write about. But I believe this is the truth and it needs more research.

The conspiracy goes back to Egypt, Babylon and Sumer and it's a kind of a satanic bloodline. This bloodline is still in power and are the British royal family, Dutch royal family, Bush, Obama, Rockefeller, Rothschild etc.

The agenda is to create a 1 world government(Luciferian) and reduce 80-90% of the world population. They want to microchip(mark of the beast) the public, so they can't buy or sell without the mark(chip).

The western media in EU are demonizing Israel and are pro Gaza. Those from Gaza are not victims as the mainstream media says. They are kind of a death-cult and brainwash their children to think they go to heaven if they blow themselves up and kill Jews. The satanic bloodline have created Hamas, Muslim brotherhood and the bloodlines are behind the staged revolutions in the Arabic countries, so they can let Muslim brotherhood take control and they can get together against Israel.

The Muslims are good people as well and are manipulated to hate Israel because of the Gaza Hamas cult situation.

The Jewish are often good, strong spiritual people that care about humanity. If they where left alone and did not have to deal with all the hate the Nemesis of the Jews have created for thousand of years. The Jewish people would serve humanity and show by example that if we serve humanity instead of our ego, we create a paradise on the planet. I believe this is the core reason why this bloodline hate the Jews so much and have demonized them.

I have talked with several from the satanic bloodlines and people from the Rothschild family. They have a strange satanic mindset.

What a Rothschild wrote to me:
("testers"the elite)

"The biggest question that humanity has to answer for itself is "Are we cancer or are we medicine?", and not "Where is God?" So far we share more with cancer cells, we're programmed to proliferate and destroy our host (earth). So maybe that little group of "testers" is just functioning as medicine?"

We should not attack them with hate and anger, but with true love. Even the Rothschild asked me if I could love them and I said yes.

We are in a spiritual battle against Lucifer vs. true love(God). I'm not Christian but I have had experiences with demons and they fear true love. I strongly believe the earth is kind of an energy farm for the demons and they eat our energy that has to be negative.

Those behind the NWO are demons and Lucifer, that is why they can do this over thousands of years.

It's a Luciferian conspiracy and we are all in the same boat together Jews, Muslims, Christians etc.

Another Rothschild confirmed that humanity is being tested. The Rothschild did say that it would get a bit worse then better.
I see it as a test on our soul. They manipulate us. We allow to be manipulated. It all serves a bigger purpose if we see it from a soul perspective. We are souls having a body experience and we are here to learn about taking responsibility.

The Elite are not forcing anyone to use the Naked body scanner that is like a vote for the fascist 1 world government:


Why are people allowing to let their GF/Wife, children and themselves be grubbed by men in uniform and radiating with deadly cancer x-rays?

Sheep: it is because we need to fly.

Reason: You will accept to be humiliated, let your children rapped in front of you mentally and have them radiated?

Sheep: Well it is not my fault they have put up the scanners. We are forced to do it.

Reason: NO! You don't care enough about freedom since you allow it!

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin

This is the test. Will we see the truth and do everything we can not to give away our freedom or will we live in the fake reality the Luciferians have created and allow to die physically and spiritually.

@ OTO, you are either young and naive or some kind of provocateur. Personally, I think you are naive and need to seriously revisit your research...

The true matter of fact is we dont know, because hard evidence is almost never found either way. All the anti-Israeli theorists are just as misled as the anti-jesuit theorists. Of course both Zionism and the catholic church are involved as part of the establishment, that much is obvious but to the extent that people propose, nothing is ever 100% factually proven.
You could say that an Israeli company was in charge of doing something on 9-11 but how can we prove anything without a doubt? Im sure that not everyone working for said company is a zionist, so being thats the case, how is it proven that some zionists working for the security company helped or guided the "terrorists" along- which is whats sort of implied in stating the fact that an Israeli company was in charge of airport security. Ive seen how airport security fails on many occasions, is that always planned out by Zionists?
Dont get me wrong I think that a lot of these groups have in their own sick twisted thinking, something to gain from helping the establishment usher in a OWG/NWO etc. but to pin it on just one group or one side isnt going to stop the others from moving it along.
I do know for a fact that the tyranny such that Zionism pushes on the people of Israel/Palestine is just as bad if not worse in some other countries where Zionists are not in control. So who is to blame in those instances? Or is there some kind of tunnel vision going on within the conspiracy movement where we only focus on the U.S., U.K., or Israel?

Look at Israel's pattern and their actions every other day. Does that look like a state who wants peace? Come on MAN! WTFU!

If Israel wanted peace they could do it in one day. Give me a fucking break. Geez!

(06-08-2011 09:30 PM)zapoper Wrote: [ -> ]Look at Israel's pattern and their actions every other day. Does that look like a state who wants peace? Come on MAN! WTFU!

If Israel wanted peace they could do it in one day. Give me a fucking break. Geez!

Was this directed at me? I didnt say that Israel wants peace. I dont believe they do unless its under their terms, under their boot of tyranny. I know some israelis may want peace but what the ordinary person wants is not what the actions of their state represents. And that goes for just about any government in power since like...
forever.

Quote:I know some israelis may want peace but what the ordinary person wants is not what the actions of their state represents. And that goes for just about any government in power since like...
forever.

True, but only Israel coerces members of other governments to favor their agenda. In a big way I mean.