Hi, I am from India.
I need help from you guys.
Around 6-7 years ago, I was standing on the terrace and the sky was clear but a perfect hole in the sky made out of cloud which was in perfect shape from inside (i.e. perfect round) but roughly in shape from outside. From the place where I was standing the moon was in center of that hole. Me and my brother saw it. But no one believe me now. Even my brother says that it was only a crap.
It seems something like this but it was perfect, sky was clear and it was in night.
![[Image: novholepunch20083.jpg]](http://www.shadowresearch.com/HolePunch%20Clouds/novholepunch20083.jpg)
Please let me know if you people have heard something like this before.
Hmm... But mine was too perfect to be natural and the sky was clear...
Thanks dude.... You solved the mystery
(03-06-2010 09:28 PM)Easy Skanking Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah. I've seen those before. It's ice crystals in the upper atmosphere refracting the reflected light from the moon. The dead giveaway is the moon in the exact center.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moonring/
http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofs...-the-moon/
http://www.universetoday.com/guide-to-sp...-the-moon/
Sorry but thats bs. There is no way the moon could cause that. The moon isnt just a few miles away from the earth. If you look from a point in space outside earth. See that big blue marble and far away that tiny small moon and then take the sun in count aswell. How on earth could some tiny fraction amount of sun light reflected by the moon cause such an nearly perfect microscopic tiny circle in the sky on only one spot on earth?
To make it more clear. Visualize hand ball. Then take a tennis ball and put that tennis ball 10 yards away. Now take a huge round 20 yards ball and put that ball at least 20 miles away. Now please explain how sunlight over 20 miles hit that tinny tennis ball, reflecting to the hand ball and on the hand ball it creats a marbled sized circle in the clouds?
I hope you agree that this is impossible. The sunlight reflecting from the moons surface is scattered and not focused like an laser beam.
for an explaination what causes that circle in the sky. I dont know, but if I would have to take a guess then it was some kind of haarp thing. Small nuclear explosions in the earlier years, when the usa did their nuclear tests in the higher athmosphere, caused similar holes in the sky. For today maybe it was some kind of rocket exploding in the sky or as I said some kind of haarp technology.
I see a lot of guessing and supposition and no supporting evidence.
Quote:Ring Around the Moon
by Farmers' Almanac Staff | Monday, August 17th, 2009 | From: Astronomy
While stargazing, have you ever noticed a large circular band of light surrounding the moon? If so, you have seen a lunar halo.
![[Image: 9657.jpg&w=320&h=240&...amp;ft=jpg]](http://www.farmersalmanac.com/wp-content/plugins/simple-post-thumbnails/timthumb.php?src=/wp-content/thumbnails/9657.jpg&w=320&h=240&zc=1&ft=jpg)
A lunar halo is caused by the refraction, reflection, and dispersion of light through ice particles suspended within thin, wispy, high altitude cirrus or cirrostratus clouds. As light passes through these hexagon-shaped ice crystals, it is bent at a 22 degree angle, creating a halo 22 degrees in radius (or 44 degrees in diameter). A double halo, sometimes with spokes, may be seen on rare occasions when light reflects off water or ice.
The prism effect of light passing through these six-sided ice crystals separates the light into its various colors, resulting in a halo tinged with very pale rainbow colors with red on the inside and blue on the outside. The phenomenon of a lunar halo is similar to a rainbow produced by sunlight and rain falling between your eye and the sun.
Weather lore says a lunar halo is the precursor of impending unsettled weather, especially during the winter months. This is often proved true, as cirrus and cirrostratus clouds generally precede rain and storm systems.
Lunar halos are, in fact, actually fairly common. So watch the night sky – and keep the umbrella handy.
Also known as Lunar Halos...
Quote:Halos are not purely daytime happenings. Look for them whenever a bright moon is veiled by thin cirrus cloud. A full or nearly full moon is best.
22º halos often encircle the moon. More rarely, because the moon is relatively dim, it is possible to see moondogs and other halos. Colours are faint or non existent because their light is barely strong enough to excite the colour sensors of our eyes.
Much smaller coloured rings sometimes surround the moon. These are not a halo but a corona produced by the diffraction of light by the water droplets of clouds. And of course moonlight creates a rainbow although to the unaided eye it is usually a wan creature devoid of colour.
![[Image: lkm22c.jpg]](http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/images1/lkm22c.jpg)
http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/circmoon.htm
a halo is light reflecting on tiny particles in the air thats right, but thats all, just light. Also the halo changes from every point of view. So if you would stand more north you would see the halo on a totally different spot in the sky as if you would stand a hundred miles south. You have halos on lenses in video cameras, digi cams and that doesnt mean that there are tiny little holes.
A rainbow is also just light, there is no magic red, green, blue colored water in the air.
On the photo you see a physical existing circular hole in the clouds and not some illusion of a circle caused by reflecting light.
(03-27-2010 08:20 PM)whitesand Wrote: [ -> ]a halo is light reflecting on tiny particles in the air thats right, but thats all, just light. Also the halo changes from every point of view. So if you would stand more north you would see the halo on a totally different spot in the sky as if you would stand a hundred miles south.You have halos on lenses in video cameras, digi cams and that doesnt mean that there are tiny little holes.
I really have no idea what you are trying to convey here. Try using more scientific terms or more descriptive and defining terms.
(03-27-2010 08:20 PM)whitesand Wrote: [ -> ]A rainbow is also just light, there is no magic red, green, blue colored water in the air.
Really? [/sarcasm]
(03-27-2010 08:20 PM)whitesand Wrote: [ -> ]On the photo you see a physical existing circular hole in the clouds and not some illusion of a circle caused by reflecting light.
Read the first post again. The photo is not of the specific incident.
The OP seemed to think that's what he saw.
(03-07-2010 05:31 PM)draculia Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks dude.... You solved the mystery
(04-16-2010 03:38 PM)WWSK Wrote: [ -> ]That has nothing to do with the kind of holes from the OP.
If you read the 1st post, its pretty clear that it was more likely what Easy said than what you think the original poster meant. I agree, as Ive seen such a thing before as well...
Even the OP acknowledged that.
Dont let the picture fool you, he even said that wasnt exactly what he saw to begin with.
I saw a big black obelisk - cut out from the sky a couple of years ago - I had two witnesses that I tested as if to whether they also were seeing it. they also saw it.
edit) immediately i chased my head for a rational explanation and the best i could come up with that it could possibly be a skydivers parachute wind surfing or whatever (from the nearby refabricated open cast mines as freshwater lakes)(..fresh water-bonus!) a free on the wind, so to speak, but that i cancelled out as it was very much geometrically static - like very starkly rectangular and not affected by the environment around it ie. the moving air.phew! thanks
It moved through the sky with computer like precision and as I lent over the balcony of the blok of apartments, as it moved beyond view over the apex of the roof it appeared to be morphing shape and tbh i was in dumbfoundment as i had never seen such a thing or a metamorphosis before and so had to constantly check myself microsecond by microsecond if you know what i mean..
it was almost like a cigar with butterfly wings or something as it went out of view. but really monotone deep black.and also really not how you are accustomed to perceive things in this dimension or whatever...like it really broke some visual rules my brain had set up and confounded the mind.. there may have been lights but i do not know for sure if that is just a projection and something i put onto the experience in my imaginationlater. possibly. not sure.
otherwise it is all totally clear.
sorry to hijack the thread icedragon. how are things in India? I really like your country. nice times. :nods: