well it's hardly a secret. if you'd looked at my sig you'd see the 'Rothschilds need love too' post - put it there the same day i posted it in 'introduce yourself'. 10/6 sig also takes you to the same place. i see though you didn't spot my yahoo address.
what i was trying to do with Surreal was offer an alternative perspective based on kindness rather than 'knowledge'. you see, although i accept, on the whole, ConCen contributers have a greater understanding of the forces who manipulate our world, i'm also left with the impression they're no nicer and offer no more respect than your average jo(e) - and in many case deride and look down upon them. hardly enlightenment at its deepest level, i would suggest.
big hugs,
Quote:This couldn't be done privately or on a new thread? Maybe surreal explain is a relative of mothandrust perhaps..? Has it got to the point where we have to copyright/trademark our nicks now??:dazed:
thanks for this faust, but sorry, it is me - caught red handed, the snake in the grass. 'cept i never wanted to be a snake, just to challenge people's understanding and prejudice (and i never wanted it to be a secret - if so i'd have used an anonymous IP and a different domain - i have plenty of them)
perhaps it is of little importance, but Surreal (and mnr i think - although perhaps it got carried away somewhere) never offered or validated violence, just question, learning, understanding... no doubt there is something to be learned from being fucked in the eye but i'm not sure it is directly relevant to my particular research. and i am already aware of how authority abuses power to service its personal agenda.
personally i prefer bottom kissing - i'd kiss them all, if too often the devil's fiery phallus was not in the way, :love:
big hugs,
Which one was just talking?
Big hugs? WTF
Bottom kissing? WTF
Shades of grace...
I feel like using "real names", but it violates my code of ethics to divulge names without given permission. However, it's not against my ethics to reveal their genders :biggrin: , so... SerialExpLain is a self proclaimed woman, and MothandRust (AKA "SurrealExplain") is a self proclaimed man (and possibly gay, as noel pointed out). (no offense) He tried to give me those bs flowers in the other thread:suspicious:Keep em... and please stop all the hugging, and sarcastic kissing ass ffs
One of the few benefits of acting like a prick and using my real name is people can tell that I'm straight, lol
So yeah, I'm complicit in all this bullshit, I did laugh at that first post by the counterfeit SE in that welcome thread... beyond that I knew nothing. I apologize to the SerialExpLain, you know I enjoy irony. But knowing that makes me think I might be encouraging this kind of bullshit... he seems to interpret everything I do as as encouragement, I take responsibility because maybe he can't tell the difference.
Mothandrust/MnR/Surreal/J - This is a place for your intent, not for your bullshit. If you can't tell the difference between the two, then your posts won't add up to shit. Assuming different identities doesn't help, neither does being happy and sad and pissed all at the same time. People won't understand you... all it creates doubt and distrust. I'm not trying to encourage this kind of bullshit.
As for mike and the real SlimExplainy (sorry) having a lurid "private" conversation here, I think that it was the most honest way to reveal the information, and do it just as public as his stunt was. Why this thread? The counterfeit "SE" posted here, and since I may have encouraged it , now that I know MnR's behavior, and I started this awesome thread, I except responsibility for what's happened here.
Hopefully, everything is more clear.
-Chris
That was a phatExplain Chris :biggrin:
<span style="color:#FFFF99">hi Chris and all, i'm sorry i seem to have upset people - that was never my intention. i thought it was just a bit of fun, seems i misjudged the situation:blush:ah well, it ain't the first time and i'm sure it won't be the last - but i'm not sure if all of you just don't take life a bit too seriously sometimes.
I feel like using "real names", but it violates my code of ethics to divulge names without given permission. However, it's not against my ethics to reveal their genders :biggrin: , so... SerialExpLain is a self proclaimed woman, and MothandRust (AKA "SurrealExplain") is a self proclaimed man (and possibly gay, as noel pointed out). (no offense)<span style="color:#FFFF99"> - none taken, i tend to think we are all complex mixtures of histories, influences, emotions... as well as genes making no one exactly or entirely 100% male or female. He tried to give me those bs flowers in the other thread:suspicious:Keep em... and please stop all the hugging, and sarcastic kissing ass ffs <span style="color:#FFFF99">well it wasn't me that started all this kissing ass nonsense, just 'cos two people agreed with each other and seemed to show some mutual respect. i think it's divisive and derogatory to accuse and belittle others. if you want to trace the origins, at least as far as i'm aware, it goes back to a thread in 'religion and occult', think it might have been Jesus vs Christianity but not sure, when a handful of people not prepared to accept the establishment view of Christianity were condemned as "ass kissers", or some such. as for flowers, it's meant in friendship, as are the hugs (yeah, i know it's superficial but what else can you do on the internet?). i spent most of my life being reserved and formal, mixing with Latins and Africans showed me a kinder more friendly way, and Che finished his letters to Fidel "big hugs" - sorry if you don't appreciate it.
One of the few benefits of acting like a prick and using my real name is people can tell that I'm straight, lol <span style="color:#FFFF99">yeah, maybe. i have no doubt you are straight Chris, but that comes from your words and persona, not a name or an avatar there's plenty of others around here using real names of whom i'm far more skeptical (actually i wasn't sure if it was you real name, thought it might have had some significance upon which i had not yet stumbled).
So yeah, I'm complicit in all this bullshit, I did laugh at that first post by the counterfeit SE in that welcome thread... beyond that I knew nothing. I apologize to the SerialExpLain, you know I enjoy irony. But knowing that makes me think I might be encouraging this kind of bullshit... he seems to interpret everything I do as as encouragement, I take responsibility because maybe he can't tell the difference. <span style="color:#FFFF99">Chris i am happy to take responsibility for my own actions thank you very much. perhaps communicating with you did give me confidence - in fact in some way i'm sure it did, so thank you - but i don't need encouragement to put across my point of view, nor to look for alternative ways of doing it. the most disappointing thing, is that there's been loads of posts after the Surreal one but absolutely none of them about the post itself. i guess it's my fault, if i'd posted as 10/6 (that's the id i use at work in case work colleagues venture onto the computer) no one would be any the wiser. sort of surprised about all this reaction really - thought many people would have different identities - am i breaking some sort of internet etiquette, i'm not well versed in these things?
Mothandrust/MnR/Surreal/J - This is a place for your intent, not for your bullshit. If you can't tell the difference between the two, then your posts won't add up to shit. Assuming different identities doesn't help, neither does being happy and sad and pissed all at the same time. People won't understand you... all it creates doubt and distrust. I'm not trying to encourage this kind of bullshit. <span style="color:#FFFF99">i try never to offer bullshit, and if i've made an error or misperceived something i want to be eager to acknowledge it (how can one learn without acknowledging errors?) everything i write refers in some way to my intent - and often i spend hours pawing over it, rewriting bits, words, here and there, only to find i'd missed something from the equation - sure, much of this is dope inspired, sometimes it means i miss the obvious, head down the wrong track and sometimes i come up with silly thoughts that make me giggle and don't as a consequence see the consequences:blush:this being a case in point. i'm sorry about being happy, sad, pissed (off) all at the same time - it's not easy being me (maybe it's not easy being anyone), and it goes with the dyslexia. can you imagine what it's like to have a perceptual organisation better than 99.9% of the population? it means you can put things together way better than other people, yet as a consequence get labeled psychotic and stupid, and derided, and in the process end up doubting you own sanity. i don't do it for fun Chris.
As for mike and the real SlimExplainy (sorry) having a lurid "private" conversation here, I think that it was the most honest way to reveal the information, and do it just as public as his stunt was. Why this thread? The counterfeit "SE" posted here, and since I may have encouraged it , now that I know MnR's behavior, and I started this awesome thread, I except responsibility for what's happened here. <span style="color:#FFFF99">you never encouraged it Chris. why this thread? a silly dope inspired idea, (didn't i write that somewhere before) that clicked in my brain about throwing sheep on a barbie, and looking at the kind and generous people that surround me, who know nothing of evil conspiracies etc., yet i liked, then i remembered the Rothschild post and the rest is history, as they say. well, my version of history.
i do accept people do not get me - and that it is a fault with my writing, perhaps even my thinking. i'm fed up with apologising for it - if people don't like or understand my posts they don't have to read them - it is after all my loss (perhaps their's too but it is not for me to say) but hopefully through all of this will come greater understanding, enhancing my communication skills.
i take comfort from the Dao, knowing all things happen as they are meant, all that is required is acceptance - but that i think is another topic...
big hugs,
jack
No harm done. Knowledge gained.
Quote:This couldn't be done privately or on a new thread? Maybe surreal explain is a relative of mothandrust perhaps..? Has it got to the point where we have to copyright/trademark our nicks now??:dazed:
To a point, yes copyrighted nicks exist.
Ctrl with anything before or after is banned.
Actually, blv it or not, I wont allow any other "Cypher" either.
I reserved her nick while she was here and do still repect that.
Ben, we've not always seen eye to eye, but despite that, I'd not
allow anyone to mock thru mimicking you either.
Seeing my motives, I hope you'd respect that.
Quote:As for mike and the real SlimExplainy (sorry) having a lurid "private" conversation here,
You have a wild imagination. She alluded to a topic about skullfucking, and I alluded
to a thread about an mp3 playing girly-toy. Nothing "private" there.
I just back my fellow admins from mockery and impersonation. Take that FWIW.
Quote:Quote:This couldn't be done privately or on a new thread? Maybe surreal explain is a relative of mothandrust perhaps..? Has it got to the point where we have to copyright/trademark our nicks now??:dazed:
To a point, yes copyrighted nicks exist.
Ctrl with anything before or after is banned.
Actually, blv it or not, I wont allow any other "Cypher" either.
I reserved her nick while she was here and do still repect that.
Ben, we've not always seen eye to eye, but despite that, I'd not
allow anyone to mock thru mimicking you either.
Seeing my motives, I hope you'd respect that.
Thats cool Ctrl, there is something about a Nick that goes beyond just the name it implies. A Nick literally becomes your identity and carries with it your beliefs and personality all over the web. Ive had mine online since 1997 and use it in a few forms due to character constraints or someone having something similar.
I would be frustrated if someone tried to mimic me or worse yet masqueraded as me. In short, your Nick is used in lieu of your real name and given enough time probably dwarfs your birth name as mine has. I can honestly say there will be more of me left behind as Rod than my real name could ever accomplish.
Quote:Quote:Quote:This couldn't be done privately or on a new thread? Maybe surreal explain is a relative of mothandrust perhaps..? Has it got to the point where we have to copyright/trademark our nicks now??:dazed:
To a point, yes copyrighted nicks exist.
Ctrl with anything before or after is banned.
Actually, blv it or not, I wont allow any other "Cypher" either.
I reserved her nick while she was here and do still repect that.
Ben, we've not always seen eye to eye, but despite that, I'd not
allow anyone to mock thru mimicking you either.
Seeing my motives, I hope you'd respect that.
Thats cool Ctrl, there is something about a Nick that goes beyond just the name it implies. A Nick literally becomes your identity and carries with it your beliefs and personality all over the web. Ive had mine online since 1997 and use it in a few forms due to character constraints or someone having something similar.
I would be frustrated if someone tried to mimic me or worse yet masqueraded as me. In short, your Nick is used in lieu of your real name and given enough time probably dwarfs your birth name as mine has. I can honestly say there will be more of me left behind as Rod than my real name could ever accomplish.
It's how I feel too. A similar nick I can overlook, but I've never been one for impersonation.
Quote:Quote:As for mike and the real SlimExplainy (sorry) having a lurid "private" conversation here,
You have a wild imagination. She alluded to a topic about skullfucking, and I alluded
to a thread about an mp3 playing girly-toy. Nothing "private" there.
I just back my fellow admins from mockery and impersonation. Take that FWIW.
I was joking about the lurid sex jokes being in such a "serious" thread. We're trying to be legit over here...:doghump:Anyway, I see your motives and agree with your choice. It had to be done.
-Chris
'What if this thread is taking the piss and dragging along and has nothing to do with the system now'
Gone on a bit init.. call it a day and take it to PM's now ? No offence, just gone real dry.
Im not one for the snobby sarcasm and double agent methods kissing peoples bums
really gone sour here .. thanks.
crusty bread anyone ?
For what its worth, I think people intentionally or unintentionally crashed this thread because of its subversive nature. The question, and it's many examples, still remains. -C