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I'd recommend it Standvast.

It was a long long time after shrooms before I ever decided to do acid but once the universe brought it to me (see my original post on page 1) I felt I needed to do it. Ever since I have enjoyed it on occasion always with great results. Forget what some people afraid of their own brains/bodies say.

Everyone knows introducing substances to your bodies can have adverse effects. I don't think anyone on the forum needs to be reminded of that. Instead of being afraid of this fact, a little knowledge goes a long way.

You said you like mescaline, well, according to this website, the molecules of psilocin, mescaline, LSD and most other hallucinogens are indole-amines, with LSD being the most complex. Sharing indole ring structures (in red on the images) allows them to mimic brain neurotransmitters and alter the perceptions received thereof. Here's a look at the similarity of the molecules from that website:

Serotonin

Psilocin

Mescaline

LSD-25

Most of my post has been paraphrasing information from the link above, so if this article fascinated you you can check it out and get the "original translation" so to speak.

Peace.

This Indole ring stuff is what lead me to calling LSD the game genie.

It goes into to the Nintendo (receptor) just like a game (serotonin), but makes things cooler.

Quote:In my opinion the most enjoyable drug I ever had was pure brown MDMA and I would still take that over LSD anyday.

With all the shit you dropped on LSD, you come around and say this...

MDMA is way more dangerous than LSD. Shits you have to screw your head back on my friend.

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Quote: In my opinion the most enjoyable drug I ever had was pure brown MDMA and I would still take that over LSD anyday.

With all the shit you dropped on LSD, you come around and say this...

Seriously. MDMA is fun and all, but the only other time my heart has ever beaten like that was either after a bad car accident or being trapped in a corner by a large wild animal. On top of the shitty hangover the next day and the rapid heart rate, I found that I got all I was ever really going to get out of MDMA after my first five or six rolls. After that, it just seemed been there done that before. I let it break down some stupid social barriers that have been built up since childhood, let it extrovert my personality a little bit, and now I kind of feel it has done its job.

Definitely something most people should try once. That's a heavily loaded statement though. While MDMA is pretty safe, E is pretty dangerous. A couple people died recently out by me when they ate E loaded with crystal meth. Which I'm pretty sure is just poisoned E rather than at all psychoactive. I could be wrong because meth ain't really my scene, but I'm pretty sure just eating it is pretty stupid.

I don't know who these fucktards are making shitty tainted drugs but they do show up. Albeit far rarer than PSAs would have you believe, it can happen.

silence is a sure sign of ownage.

Quote:. . . the essay that you found well written was an absolute load of shit, I have already PROVEN this, did you miss my posts? Drugs do affect people differently but Marijihuana is addictive and that's a fact! If it seems not to be addictive for you then you are obviously not a long term heavy user. You mentioned that Flashbacks are real and I agree with you, in fact I know this to be true, but believe it or not some cocksucker . . .

your honour has been hurt, and I understand your reaction. But as you have seen, attacking leads to counter-attacks. Try to forgive, and when I read your post after that one, you already have done that in a way with wishing all posters mental health. I respect you for that. I did read all posts, and I accept your opinion. But I can't deny my own observations which are almost identical to the essay I praised.

Apparently you made it and survived, after doing heroine and methadone. From the about 30 people I know/knew who did heroine, only one made it. Only one. You are the second one it seems. For this I also respect you.

I smoked pot from the age of 16 to 26. After the first couple of joints I simply didn't feel any effect (maybe similar to my mushroom experiences), but after some weeks it made whooosh. From that moment I was addicted, that's true, and I got used to it. Smoking was a part of my life. If there were no changes, I would be addicted until today I guess. I love marijuana and tobacco, I adore and almost worship these plants. But I don't need to take them anymore. I do occasionally, but I live too far away from civilization to get tempted. A lot of people I know will smoke forever, unless they change their lives or simply get bored with having to worry about their daily dose. So I rather agree with you and say that marijuana is addictive. But there are exceptions.:DSure I have some minor troubles when I quit smoking again, but it's only a question of changing the habit. Right after stopping I have to think 20-30 times a day of lighting a cigarette or rolling a joint, but this desire vanishes after some days, and I'm no more addicted at all. I forget that I have ever smoked. This is rather easy when you live in the mountains. And there are other pleasures in life.

And to the others, try to forgive nietzscheansuperman for hurting your honour.

About flashbacks: true, I don't really know what it is. I can't know it. But I have seen people having flashbacks. I spent half of my life among drug-enjoyers, some told me about it, and not in a way of being cool or getting respect, rather in a sense of worry and confusion. Confusion because they thought that the trip was over, the substance gone. I read somewhere that LSD is one of the very few drugs our body can absorb to 100% so that after a few hours or maybe a day or two no traces can be found.

In our normal life, the doors of perception are closed. Drugs can open them. A flashback is probably a memory of those opened doors. It doesn't necessarily have something to do with molecules.

I apologize for mentioning the word damage. It is such an ugly word, and not genuinely expressing the truth. Let me put it that way: after 5 minutes of conversation I can tell if a person has token LSD or not. I'm not reading auras or something, I can't exactly explain how I recognize it. There are subtle differences between those who are "experienced" and those who are not. There is a personality change. What is better, is very personal. But I observed life problems and suffering among the experienced. Be aware that there are people who can see much more than I can and they read your history like an open book. If you want to achieve great things, keep in mind that you can't hide your past in front of such people, and it may spoil the path to certain goals.

There comes a certain point in conversation, debate, argument, whatever you choose to call it, where I draw a line in the sand. That point comes when it comes to details such as past and present tense verb usage, criticism of opinions, personal/ad hominem remarks, etc. Once I have to start dealing with this I have to say fuck it. It's no longer about the topic, it's about subtleties in semantics in what was never meant to be a scientifically sound proclamation to begin with.

It was lame of me to post a bunch of angry remarks but I already did, live and learn. I'm far more interested in hearing people's experiences or thoughts about LSD than my own opinions; I'm glad so many people have shared them.

I don't know if it comes with doing psychedelics, learning about/expanding my mind to all sorts of new concepts, the meditation I do, or just from getting older, but I feel I can understand people's emotions and intentions really well. I can just tell if someone is bullshitting me, or has an ulterior motive, or is being genuine. I've always been a pretty good judge of character but I can almost read it now, in a serious way. There's something I feel I can pick up, but I can't really express it. I think this is a result of doing MDMA, now that I think about it. Anyone share this feeling?

I'm there with you. It's like some of the complete empathy you get on MDMA remains with you. But then again I'm not sure exactly how much of that I can attributive to MDMA and how much is just my natural empathy. Sometimes when I put myself into a similar mindstate, it does seem to boost those natural abilities.

But who knows? I've done a lot of research on MDMA and I am constantly amazed by the benefits that people get from it. While it's a lesser psychedelic (psychedelic amphetamine to be exact) at least in the visual sense, it has amazing properties that LSD, mescaline, psilocybin or any other phenylethylamine don't come even close to. I would not be surprised to learn that new neural pathways are being made when the drug is used like has been suggested with cannabis.

At the very least, it can make you re-evaluate your views on everything like the other psychedelics can. Truly a most amazing drug and one of my standby's. :dazed:



While we are on the topic of LSD and psychadelics, here is a recent trip report I did on some nice clean MDA (3,4-METHYLENEDIOXYAMPHETAMINE) for those that aren't familiar with it.

Quote:hmm, might be specious :tongue:

You better have a thesaurus handy with Nikolaas around :zipit::tongue:

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Quote:I'm there with you. It's like some of the complete empathy you get on MDMA remains with you. But then again I'm not sure exactly how much of that I can attributive to MDMA and how much is just my natural empathy. Sometimes when I put myself into a similar mindstate, it does seem to boost those natural abilities.

But who knows? I've done a lot of research on MDMA and I am constantly amazed by the benefits that people get from it. While it's a lesser psychedelic (psychedelic amphetamine to be exact) at least in the visual sense, it has amazing properties that LSD, mescaline, psilocybin or any other phenylethylamine don't come even close to. I would not be surprised to learn that new neural pathways are being made when the drug is used like has been suggested with cannabis.

At the very least, it can make you re-evaluate your views on everything like the other psychedelics can. Truly a most amazing drug and one of my standby's. :dazed:

any thoughts about 5-HTP being used in combination? It works but I heard studies thought it can lead to serotonin syndrome where the 5-HTP receptors are flooded with serotonin and it can't be properly metabolised..

It seems to be a personal choice. The studies are not that conclusive. The only aspect that seems to be agreed upon is that you don't take it the day you dose. Some preload with it and some postload. I have seen reports that support both sides. I just think that everyone reacts differently and therefore the mixed results. Some have also used L-Tryptophan (the precursor to 5-HTP) as 5-HTP causes upset stomach on occasion. From all that I've seen, it is inconclusive as to whether a 5-HTP supplement will increase the serotonin supply so that more serotonin will be released when MDMA is used.

I've been satisfied with eating lots of turkey sandwiches and taking regular vitamin supplements. The days following a trip, I will increase the amount of anti-oxidants I take (Vit C & E).

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Quote:This thread has had a lot of things said, some specious..

your word bro :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :laugh:

No I know, I thought you were digging me for using it over and over again like vigilant.

Edit: That's some interesting stuff regarding 5-HTP and L-tryptophan, too.

"With all the shit you dropped on LSD, you come around and say this...

MDMA is way more dangerous than LSD. Shits you have to screw your head back on my friend."

According to some research it is, but I have seen documentaries by the people who first started using it in psychotherapy who say that it is not. No doubt most of the pills going around are rubbish, full of ketamine and other MDMA substitutes. I have had several things that were supposed to be pure MDMA but they were shit compared to the stuff I mentioned earlier, for instance we used to get blue & white caps that we called Smurfs, and pills called MDMA-125 which were both supposed to be at least 125mg of pure MDMA and maybe they were, but once I got a see through cap with brown powder in it that sort of looked like graphite shavings (for lack of a better explanation), I got it off some weird guy at a rave who told me it was REAL MDMA, needless to say I was suspicious as I had heard this many times before but when I dropped it my eyes rolled back in my head and I was in an indescribable state of bliss for several hours. Strangely enough there was no come down, just a feeling of longing to be in the state I was previously in. Unfortunately I had no way of getting any more of this stuff as I could not contact this guy again, something that continues to frustrate me to this day. As for the dangers of LSD, I think the link that nicholaas sent us earlier says it better than I can. Hoffman said that it should be a controlled substance and only used in psychotherapy by trained professionals (like MDMA), he called people like Timothy Leary "Criminals". Hoffman was aware of the dangers of LSD and had experienced what he called a "horror trip" so people should keep this in mind before implying that I must have a 'weak mind'. I wish that all trips ended the way they begin (in laughter) but this just is not the case, I was tripping once when someone decided to put on 'Faces Of Death' and I would challenge anyone to sit through that on acid and still tell me they had a wonderful experience, however it doesn't take something that intense to fuck things up for you, even hearing the news can do it sometimes and I have seen people have a bad trip just because they had trouble getting hold of it.

Now, about that flashback & spine shit, lets get that over with shall we???

Nataria, you accused phil of speaking about things he had no personal experience of which is exactly what you are doing so shut the fuck up! please. Phil said that he has spent some time around "Goa people" so this makes him more qualified to talk on this subject than you. Unfortunately flashbacks are a real phenomenon among some HEAVY users of acid!!! You can send me all the fucking links you want that do a half assed job of suggesting that they are not and I will send you even more testimonies from people saying that they are. For a long time the Medical establishment has been trying to figure out what causes them but to no avail. There was some evidence that LSD was stored in spinal fluid but this has since been contradicted by a latter study, it is now widely believed that LSD breaks down within hours after entering the body but as Phil said "I read somewhere that LSD is one of the very few drugs our body can absorb to 100% so that after a few hours or maybe a day or two no traces can be found." As I have exlained drugs like Methodone can apparently be stored in bone marrow which means that if the same applies for LSD, it would make the spinal fluid studies obsolete. If however LSD does break down immediately as some have suggested, then I have a plausible explanation for this but unfortunately it would require you to have some knowledge of Cellular memory. I asked my chiropractor and he suggested that you guys read a book called 'The Molecules Of Emotion' by a NEUROSCIENTIST named Candace Pert. I have read this book and would also recommend it to people who like to talk shit about opiate receptors when they haven't got a clue. He also suggested that you look into the relationship between proprioceptors and the dura (which is the covering of the brain which also runs right down your spine) as well confirming that toxins are stored in and around your spine, giving the muscles nearby a "puffy spongy feel". I would strongly encourage you to talk to a NETWORK chiropractor yourself if you have any further questions, in fact I strongly recommend you do this to increase your general health even if you do not have a back problem and remember, regular chiropractors are under-acheiving morons.

Nuff Said... OWNED!!!

You listening Dipshitboy???

Fahkin double post